On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 47: My Brilliance Is Wasted On You People  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Nov 08, 2006 12:49:40 pm PST #8837 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Oh hey. Did you want me to pick up the space shuttle tub toys?


billytea - Nov 08, 2006 12:56:46 pm PST #8838 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I still think it's weird that Ed Rendell is governor of PA, and it's been years! I imagine for both guys it's because they are so city-identified, and the rest of the state is awfully different.

This is true. When Rendell was elected governor, there was talk from the pundits about whether he could get the rest of the state to vote for him, since the rest of PA is rather wary of Philly throwing its weight around.

Meanwhile, I declare the winner of the 2006 midterm elections to be the Republicans! No, wait, I mean one Republican, specifically Lincoln. Turns out you can indeed fool all of the people some of the time (especially if you wave the flag and shout war), and you can fool some of the people all of the time (so Rush will always have an audience, I guess), but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

I actually brought that up in class, and my prof was quite intrigued that a community would seriously discuss that type of voting system.

Huh. I'm not sure how I should take this.

vw, I'm reading your voting question as saying "If one and only one voter has veto power, how many votes are needed to pass a measure?" Is that correct? If so, then I'd assume the answer's 71.


vw bug - Nov 08, 2006 1:03:42 pm PST #8839 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

I actually brought that up in class, and my prof was quite intrigued that a community would seriously discuss that type of voting system.

Huh. I'm not sure how I should take this.

I think I didn't say it very well before. I was being succinct. I was specific in that it was an online community. I think she was surprised that we thought it through that much. To which I had to explain that we're kind of a highly intelligent and thought-processing group. Which then brought up the question of what kind of online community we were. To which I responded, "Oh, Buffy." And then people laughed. And we moved on.

vw, I'm reading your voting question as saying "If one and only one voter has veto power, how many votes are needed to pass a measure?" Is that correct?

Yes.

If so, then I'd assume the answer's 71.

Ok. I think I get that. Can you give a little more explanation just to get me over the hump?


Trudy Booth - Nov 08, 2006 1:11:43 pm PST #8840 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Oh, man. Must get my ass to NY one of these days.

you really should, miss brenda


Allyson - Nov 08, 2006 1:13:46 pm PST #8841 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I WANNA VISIT NEW YORK TOO!


msbelle - Nov 08, 2006 1:14:17 pm PST #8842 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

EVERYONE SHOULD COME TO NY!


Kathy A - Nov 08, 2006 1:28:21 pm PST #8843 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm going to NJ for Christmas, if that counts!

IOohmygodthisistoocuteN, giggles!


billytea - Nov 08, 2006 1:29:13 pm PST #8844 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Ok. I think I get that. Can you give a little more explanation just to get me over the hump?

Sure. If 30-vote voter votes against, then the best the others can do is rack up 70 votes. But then if 29-vote voter votes against, the others can come up with 71 votes. If only one of them has a veto, then 71 votes must be ok to pass this thing, but 70 votes is not. Therefore, 71 votes must be needed for a measure to pass.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2006 1:29:41 pm PST #8845 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can't people just come to LA? I can't travel these days.

Humour me.


vw bug - Nov 08, 2006 1:31:11 pm PST #8846 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Therefore, 71 votes must be needed for a measure to pass.

Gotcha. You're awesome. Thank you!

Strega is also awesome, but I think this is what the prof is looking for.