Vortex, I could see individual races described as upsets (at the beginning of the year, who'd have thought Webb had a chance?). Not the general result as a whole.

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I feel exactly the same. I don't like the Randi Rhodes and Sam Seder shows at all, but Franken is pretty good.

I haven't listened to Air America since leaving NY, but I liked Randi Rhodes, even though her schtick got tiresome after awhile. Al Franken gets much better guests though. Sam Seder didn't bug me half as much as Janine Garofalo, who tended to rant blindly, sad to say.

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Vortex, I could see individual races described as upsets (at the beginning of the year, who'd have thought Webb had a chance?). Not the general result as a whole.

I think that they were talking about Webb.

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Hmm. Cheap Chinese across the street? Slightly more pricey and distant but very excellent Thai? Sandwich? Salad? Must decide before brain shorts out.

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I don't think the level of vitriol can be compared without taking into account the relative level of influence the vitriol has. The insano-extreme left is widely acknowledged by everyone to be insane and extreme, but Bill O'Reilly is taken seriously by a frighteningly large number of people. I'd bet good money that the vast majority of Americans have no idea who Randi Rhodes is (I'm not even sure I do), but Ann Coulter is a best-seller.

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Ann Coulter is a best-seller.

Yeah. And MSM news shows have her on as if she actually has something sane to say....

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I think Ann Coulter is a sideshow, though, to the majority of people who watch her. I know lots of liberals who find her hilarious, the same way they laugh at Dr. Phil and before him. Dr. Laura.

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I'd bet good money that the vast majority of Americans have no idea who Randi Rhodes is (I'm not even sure I do)

I'm sure most people don't know her. She has been doing radio all over the country for some time and has the afternoon drive time slot on Air America (after Franken's show). One thing I liked about her was that she was always clear to source her information and tell you how to access it.

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DSCC:

Both Jon Tester and Jim Webb have won their races in Montana and Virginia but want to make sure that every vote is counted. We expect to have official results soon but can happily declare today that Democrats have taken the majority in the U.S. Senate.

Montana Vote Situation: Jon Tester leads Conrad Burns by approximately 1,700 votes (as of 11am EDT) and counting. In Silver Bow County (Butte), a Democratic stronghold, votes are still being counted but Tester is winning there with 66% of the vote. We expect to gain the majority of these uncounted votes and to add to Tester's margin.

Montana Process: When the counting phase is completed, a canvass will verify the vote tallies. That process could take as long as 48 hours, and must begin within three days and end within seven. Unless the canvass shows the margin to be within ¼ of 1%, there is no recount. As the loser, Burns would have to request the recount. When the votes are all counted, we expect to be outside that recount margin.

Virginia Vote Situation: Jim Webb is up by approximately 8,000 votes and once the provisional ballots are counted, we expect Webb's margin to increase. (Please note that VA absentees were included in the tallies from last night.)

Virginia Process: A canvass is underway to verify the results and we expect that process to finish within a day or so. To be in recount, the margin needs to be less than 1% and Allen (as the loser) would have to request it. Because of Virginia voting laws, the margin would have to be much tighter than it currently is to see any change in the outcome. Given the current margins, that is highly, highly unlikely.

<Nelson>Ha ha!</Nelson>

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I think liberals laughing at them while large amounts of non-liberals take them TOTALLY seriously is part of the problem. These people yeild a lot of influence.

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