What can I do? Wait for it to cool down? Will that work?

I'd heat it up again if you really truly can't break the seal. What happened was that the air heated up, got less dense, air got let out, then the lid reattached, it cooled, the air got denser, but there was less of it now. Insta-vacuum seal!

I was listening to Hannity's radio show and he was talking all about the liberal media and how the liberals control ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC and how much they hate conservatives blah blah blah.

They're gonna be riding that horse until it's dead, its flesh is rotted away and its bones are bleached.....

I have no inherent problem with the concept of computerized election machines, there just have to be provisions for an independent recount. And there aren't. And it really wouldn't have been that hard to do.

Exactly. I met a school board candidate the other night and expressed my concern. Her response was that I should vote absentee. Um, no, how about we change the system?

Her response was that I should vote absentee. Um, no, how about we change the system?

Exactly. This state was stupid push so hard for this to be implemented NOW and not willing to entertain concerns . And of course now they are totally trying to disavow responsibility. Asshats.

I have no inherent problem with the concept of computerized election machines, there just have to be provisions for an independent recount. And there aren't. And it really wouldn't have been that hard to do.

This. I think the idea is great in principal, but the lack of any thing you can print and verify just boggles me.

Granted, I'm not sure how it would/could be handled if you got a printed copy, and it didn't match what you'd done on the machine (or worse, thought you'd done - having seen people struggling to use ATMs before, the human factor is definitely an issue).

Well, yeah, but they'll take my paper Early Ballot from my cold, dead, crippy hands. And don't think they haven't thought of it either. Hannity could kiss my entire ass, if I didn't suspect he'd enjoy it a bit too much. ETA: I think it'll be different this time. Seriously. And y'all know me for my mindless optimism, right?

NY is supposed to be switching away from the old-fashioned lever machines soon, and I am SO upset about it. How am I supposed to enjoy voting without the kaTHUNK sound? How?

You know, it'd be so damn easy to fix the electronic voting to remove the doubt over the outcome. I mean, I used to think that if elections really are accurate and fair, then Republicans have nothing to lose and much to gain by fixing the system and reassuring everyone. I mean, why not prove the conspiracy theory people wrong? I figured the only possible benefit to keeping things the way they are now would be if Republicans really are stealing elections. But then I thought of another benefit to them - if lots of Democrats figure their vote won't matter because Diebold won't count their votes anyway, then they have a reason to be cynical and not vote. So it makes more sense for Republicans to keep things the way they are....

Frank, the paper prints out, you confirm that it's correct, then you push the button to process your vote.

We have the option of sending our votes *poof* into the electronic ether, or using scantron. Gimme my number 2 pencil, I say.

Last week I deposited my paycheck into a Diebold ATM. I received a paper receipt. Plus there was an internal paper log of the transaction.

And it fucking chaps my ass every time I have to get money out to see that Diebold logo sneering at me. I'm so pissed my bank switched to using those. (Not out of any concern that I'm at risk; just because.)

NY is supposed to be switching away from the old-fashioned lever machines soon, and I am SO upset about it. How am I supposed to enjoy voting without the kaTHUNK sound? How?

I feel the same way. It's the only way I've ever voted.

I have a question about the programming of the diebolds and the glavin:

Even if there WERE a print-out I could check and they could confirm for a recount, what's to stop them from tweaking just enough votes that you'd never ASK for a recount?