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Natter 47: My Brilliance Is Wasted On You People  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Oct 03, 2006 11:36:29 am PDT #1874 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I once did an art project where I printed up portions of The Spoon River Anthologies and used rubbings from old tombstones and made a collage of dried flowers. I think some memorials are really beautiful.

I've gone to funerals for old people where there were lots of people around joking and laughing and remembering the deceased in really nice ways. Been to an infants funeral which was tragic and horrible and uncomfortable the entire time. Open caskets don't bother me so much because I don't think of the dressed up/made up body as that person--just a representative that some others might get a little comfort from.

I'm usually fascinated by how people mourn and the riturals surrounding it. When I worked for a florist, I sometimes had to deliver funeral flowers to the local funeral homes. The casket sprays (man, those were HEAVY) always had to be taken in and placed on the caskets. I saw more dead people in that two years than I had ever seen before or since.

DH wants me to dress him up and take a memento mori photo of him and then he wants a viking funeral.

I just want to be cremated. But how the people I leave behind want to mourn is up to them. I don't care if they have a service or not. Whatever makes them feel better is what's best. As long as it's not too expensive.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 03, 2006 11:45:52 am PDT #1875 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

When my maternal grandmother passed away, we had a wake after the service that was half family reunion, since a lot of the folks in attendance hadn't seen each other in years or decades. Lots of fondly-remembered stories and laughter. Unfortunately, our reverend took away the wrong impression of how relatively joyful the proceedings were, and his funeral service for my grandmother's sister a few months later was practically a stand-up comedy routine. Funny anecdotes might have been fine for a small gathering afterwards, but there were a lot of appalled people in that cemetery.

Huh. I just realized that we had a death in the family last week—an exceedingly elderly cousin of my grandmother's. I think I only met him once back when I was in school.


Nutty - Oct 03, 2006 11:50:38 am PDT #1876 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I was at a British estate some years ago, which has been converted into a conference/festival space in Devon, and was touring it in the off-season just to see what a British estate used to look like. We were wandering the gardens and turned a corner, and whoops! Under a pine tree was the old family plot. The oldest gravestones we could read were from 1745, but there were quite a few we couldn't read.

Do American churches do the get-buried-inside-the-church thing at all? I see it all over Europe (and really enjoy the dotty social history to be garnered when it's done in a small town), but I can't remember having seen it in the US. Did I just not notice, or is that Not Done in the US?


beekaytee - Oct 03, 2006 11:52:54 am PDT #1877 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Oh no. Poor minister and poor beloved gathered who were appalled.

You just can't plan for life!

Dennis Miller did a speech at the Software Publisher's Association meeting in Montreal yonks ago. He joked about a particular award and was met by frosty silence.

Him: Hey, it's not like this is a memorial award.
Us: ...
Him: God! At least the guy didn't kill himself...
Us: ...
Him: Please tell me the guy's wife isn't here.
Her: ...

At that point, he looked like a balloon that had been harpooned. He slumped his shoulders, mumbled something about how nobody told him and wandered off the stage. I felt really bad for him. Of course, that was nearly 20 years ago...my feelings about him have changed.


Jesse - Oct 03, 2006 11:55:42 am PDT #1878 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I love cemeteries -- my family often goes for a walk in the fancy old one in Boston. When I was in the Bahamas, running away from the Tourist Attractions, I ran across an old colonial cemetery and it was really cool. The guy mowing the grass thought I was a little odd, though.


Strega - Oct 03, 2006 12:03:32 pm PDT #1879 of 10001

My grandmother had a viewing, which I thought was fairly horrific, but I wasn't close to her at all, so it wasn't personally upsetting.

My dad was cremated. We had a short service at the funeral home, played the Brandenburg Concertos, and I thought about punching the minister. But I didn't. My aunt & brother spoke, and probably someone else I've forgotten. After that I guess five of us went to the cemetary briefly, and then people came to our house to help eat the tons of food we'd accumulated.

If I could have skipped the whole thing, I would have. I understand the whole "it's for the survivors" thing in theory, but... for me, all of that was a series of hurdles I had to get over before I was finally allowed to be alone for a while, which was what I'd wanted the whole time.


Gudanov - Oct 03, 2006 12:16:28 pm PDT #1880 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I have to link to this article because it involves monkeys and pants...

Police: Men smuggled monkeys in pants; also leopard cubs, orchids, birds of paradise

The title makes it sound better than it really was.


tommyrot - Oct 03, 2006 12:18:37 pm PDT #1881 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Police: Men smuggled monkeys in pants; also leopard cubs, orchids, birds of paradise

But no hippos. Still and yet, hippo dignity is denied.


§ ita § - Oct 03, 2006 12:21:00 pm PDT #1882 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Weird. I was just reading about a probably-smuggled slow loris, except it was in Japan.


brenda m - Oct 03, 2006 12:55:18 pm PDT #1883 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

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