So there is something I can do, besides scream like a woman?

Wesley ,'Chosen'


Spike's Bitches 32: I think I'm sobering up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


SuziQ - Oct 06, 2006 7:30:16 pm PDT #6497 of 10000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Sparky and I are going to the Marina square outlets tomorrow

Over here, not far from me? Ooooooh, that has possibilities.


Maria - Oct 06, 2006 7:32:26 pm PDT #6498 of 10000
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

You should make your self one instead.

But, but...that defeats my purpose of getting you out here so we can raise some hell. Or shop. I'm good with both.


Lee - Oct 06, 2006 7:37:23 pm PDT #6499 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Over here, not far from me? Ooooooh, that has possibilities.

Yep, in San Leandro. We're meeting at the new Eileen Fisher store at noon, if yiou want to join us.

that defeats my purpose of getting you out here so we can raise some hell. Or shop. I'm good with both.

Oh, I so totally need to make a trip to DC soon. Can't be tonight though, what with the whole too much tequila already.


Cass - Oct 06, 2006 7:55:02 pm PDT #6500 of 10000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Cass, headaches should always have a good reason.
And an end in sight as well.

ita, how in the hell do you do this? I have had headaches for days now. Just nearly constant. I would shove an ice pick through my head if I had one and the motivation to go get it.


Atropa - Oct 06, 2006 8:45:54 pm PDT #6501 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

...

I have a final thing to say about the discussion earlier today, because I found that I'm getting angrier the more that I think about it.

vw, I am glad that you told us what you did and apologized. However, that does not make what you did okay, and yes, I do feel that you've weakened the trust I had in you.


Volans - Oct 06, 2006 9:09:53 pm PDT #6502 of 10000
move out and draw fire

vw's prompting did seem kind of like a constructed discussion, but I'm still going to say please don't use my comments, vw. They were meant for friends with an awareness of lurkers.

I was feeling sort of vulnerable last night - I was in a very extroverted mood, but was home alone, so I came here for company. I'm willing to share personal stuff with the Bitches because in exchange I get good company from people I trust who can make with the snark.

I think for me it was a good lesson that I shouldn't be so sharing of the personal stuff.

ION, Go A's!!!! Fuck yeah! Plus the Tigers beat the Yankees, so all is good.


Beverly - Oct 06, 2006 9:28:53 pm PDT #6503 of 10000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm glad you confessed, vw, but I'm taken aback you'd ambush your friends that way. Please don't use anything I said.


Jen - Oct 07, 2006 12:08:53 am PDT #6504 of 10000
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

I think for me it was a good lesson that I shouldn't be so sharing of the personal stuff.

Raq, I'm sorry to hear that you feel like you have to change something in response to this; that seems kind of backwards, y'know? The folks on the receiving end aren't the ones who should change.


Amy - Oct 07, 2006 5:04:45 am PDT #6505 of 10000
Because books.

I'm going to nickname my lovely husband Intrepid. He's taking Ben on a three-mile hike around the lake for Scouts today and he *offered* to take Sara with them.

::boggles. loves him::

I foresee a trip to Target unencumbered by children in my future. And a really long, hot shower beforehand. Time to shave my legs in peace! It's bliss, I tell you!


vw bug - Oct 07, 2006 5:54:32 am PDT #6506 of 10000
Mostly lurking...

I don’t think I’m going to be able to explain where I was coming from yesterday, but I feel that it is important to try for those I hurt.

I hope you all know me well enough to know that my intentions are NEVER to hurt people. I am devastated at how this turned out. I’m not really going to comment on anything anyone specifically said except for the comment about forgiveness vs. permission. That was never a thought in my mind. This was a very poorly thought out plan that was executed even worse.

As to what fogged me yesterday, I’m behind in school and desperately trying to get caught up. And with that in mind, I saw an opportunity, and I took a short cut. As I’ve already said, I do know better; I’m not sure why those brain parts didn’t work yesterday. I had a serious error in judgment, and I really am truly sorry for that.

When I asked the question yesterday, it was not my intention to pull people to their bad places. This is a conversation that has come up in my life at least three times in the last week with different people. It’s something that so many people can relate to, yet don’t really talk about. This was not any official kind of research. It was a little piece of analysis for a class. So, I didn’t think through everything I clearly needed to.

This was not meant to be a manipulation. This was not meant to look at my precious Bitches as lab rats. This was a serious lapse in judgment that I will have to pay the consequences for. And I am willing to do that. Actually, I was surprised to wake up to no new messages in Bureau. I was sure there would be a warning for this.

Looking back, I can see all of the places I made wrong decisions. Unfortunately, I did not catch those early enough and stop the whole process. I am truly sorry for that. I am also truly sorry for those who were hurt. That was never my intention. The Bitches have been a safe haven for me, and I hate to think that I just destroyed that for others.

I am going to ask that we move on. If you have further issues with me, please take them to e-mail. I promise I will respond and deal with them as they come in. I want to repair this. I will not be avoiding it. But, for the sake of the thread, I think we should move on.

And to reiterate, this is NOT going to be used for the project at all. I just wanted to make that very clear, as I think it was not clear in my original apology post (when I said I would “table” the project).

Lastly, I have personally e-mailed an apology to everyone that spoke up last night and this morning. But, if I have somehow missed someone—or you didn’t speak up at the time—please let me know privately, through e-mail. It is very important to me to repair this serious error in judgment and try to make amends.