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Frankenbuddha - Apr 24, 2007 6:09:11 am PDT #868 of 7329
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Cool. I think I saw all of sesaon 2, so that's only one season to catch up on.


Polter-Cow - Apr 24, 2007 9:31:35 am PDT #869 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

i actually found myself hating everyone(except E and Ari who i just loved to hate) and not really knowing if i wanted to keep watching.

I'm with tiggy. I'm sort of glad I saw season three first, because the characters are much more likable by that point. Season one is okay, but season two is better, and I, too, really love season three. Which was my first. Well, the first half of it, at least. Or whatever.

I suspect that when the show was created (I only started watching last season so I don't know what it was like initially) that Ari wasn't supposed to be such a central character, but that Piven's been knocking it out of the park so much that they had no choice but to enhance his role.

Like SA said, Ari's always been important, but it does seem like they made Ari a little more sympathetic than he otherwise would have been because Piven's performance was so great and made him a fantastic character and a fan favorite. A friend of mine notes that there's a line in the first episode or two that really implies that Ari sleeps around, but this season, he specifically said that he's never cheated on his wife (when they were married).


esse - Apr 25, 2007 3:12:55 pm PDT #870 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

So, hey, The Tudors. I'm sure everyone who might have tuned in when it started have subsequently tuned, but I have to say, it's turning out to be pretty entertaining. I mean, it definitely helps if you watch it thinking that this is basically an emotional drama full of ridiculously pretty people in ridiculously pretty clothes that happens to be set "historically." Since I adopted that perspective, I found I enjoy it way more than I did when I was trying to think of it as a historical drama a la Rome.

They do an exceedingly poor job of conveying both the history and politics of the time they are trying to portray. This is a shame, because the politics of the time can and have made for fascinating television/film.

However, I've become impressed by the emotional staging of the events. JRM starts to grow into the role as we move along, bringing a passion and zeal to a character who was known for his, er, passions--but does so in a way that deals with religion, desire, politics, and faith all wrapped up into one. He's deliciously selfish, which is a quality JRM portrays well (and has done well in the past) and also is smokin' hot.

Okay, truthfully a large part of me finishing out this first season is how insanely gorgeous everyone is on the show. And I mean everyone. There's a scene with Sam Neill and his lover, and even *that* pinged me, and I haven't thought he was attractive in about eight or ten years. But in particular, the actress who plays Anne Boleyn stands out. It's a difficult role--there are so many ways you could take the character, culturally and historically. But this version, a canny, self-aware, heady young Anne, has captured my heart and my other stuff and made me sit up and beg. I didn't think we'd get much out of her when she was first introduced, but holy mother of cthullu was I wrong.

Not only is she stunning, but she carries herself so well; every little motion she makes is weighed and utilized for maximum impact, and the result is driving both Henry and the audience (ie me) crazy for her. Damn. Also, she and JRM have some mad chemistry (at least when you take into account that JRM's general relationship with on-screen chemistry resembles many of Dave Boreanaz's early attempts at acting); yet despite this JRM still manages to convey the slow passion of a man being driven wild with desire for someone he shouldn't have, can't have, but has anyway.

So. I don't recommend it if you're a history buff. I do recommend it if you like watching pretty people prance around in cloth-of-gold and fucking with each other. Er. Literally and figuratively.


esse - Apr 26, 2007 3:09:01 am PDT #871 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

and related, some surprising news from e!:

The Golden Globe winner's decision to seek treatment is likely somewhat unnerving for Showtime, as the network has a lot riding on the 29-year-old actor. The Apr. 1 premiere of The Tudors drew record numbers for the cable net, with 870,000 viewers tuning in for the initial broadcast and an additional 440,000 watching an encore episode. The network was sufficiently pleased with the strong numbers to give the drama series an early renewal, announced earlier this month. The second season, which deals with Henry VIII's marriage to Anne Boleyn and (spoiler alert!) her subsequent beheading, was scheduled to begin filming in Dublin next month.

It was unclear whether Rhys Meyer's stint in rehab would delay production.

Much like Rome, is it really a spoiler if it's history? But anyway, obviously the ridiculouly pretty prettiness of the cast won over the ratings. I'm still surprised there's going to be a second season thought.


erikaj - May 06, 2007 5:41:59 pm PDT #872 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

How accurate is "Elizabeth I"? And it's okay if the answer is "Not very," since I'm asking because I know nothing and it's still good to watch anyway...Helen Mirren plays the hell out of it.


Cashmere - May 07, 2007 8:33:03 am PDT #873 of 7329
Now tagless for your comfort.

That one was fucking fantastic, erika, as well as being very accurate in most of the historical details.


erikaj - May 07, 2007 9:24:33 am PDT #874 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

Well, I'm glad to know that it's not being paced like snow melting doesn't mean they made up things...netflix reviewers were kind of quibbly. But HM makes a good queen so I was satisfied enough. Curious, though.


Cashmere - May 07, 2007 9:43:49 am PDT #875 of 7329
Now tagless for your comfort.

There were certainly nits to pick if you were so inclined but honestly, I think that Mirren and Irons so nailed the Elizabeth/Leicester dynamic that I couldn't argue with any of it. The supporting characters, Cecil and Walsingham were great, too.


erikaj - May 07, 2007 10:22:31 am PDT #876 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, they were awesome. Of course poor Robin died painfully so I won't see him in disc two, which is a bummer. Like with Bill Hickock.


IAmNotReallyASpring - May 07, 2007 10:39:03 am PDT #877 of 7329
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

From the way back article on Deadwood:

Milch also addressed the anger that rose up among “Deadwood” fans when word leaked out last year that the show’s third season might be its last, in part due to Milch’s commitments to “John from Cincinnati,” a series about a surfing family’s encounter with a possible alien.

An alien? Like Mork?