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Frankenbuddha - Apr 24, 2007 2:43:41 am PDT #860 of 7329
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I loved how close Ari got to crying, though. That was hilarious--staring at the picture of Vincent and himself mistily. And his wife doesn't even blink at the feelings Ari has for Vinny, or the fact that it was basically a breakup.

I suspect that when the show was created (I only started watching last season so I don't know what it was like initially) that Ari wasn't supposed to be such a central character, but that Piven's been knocking it out of the park so much that they had no choice but to enhance his role.


esse - Apr 24, 2007 3:13:33 am PDT #861 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I don't know--from the start Ari is there for about one-half of each episode. He's always been a major player and one of the bigger-name draws for the show.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 24, 2007 3:24:21 am PDT #862 of 7329
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I don't know--from the start Ari is there for about one-half of each episode. He's always been a major player and one of the bigger-name draws for the show.

Good to know. I really need to catch up on the old episodes sometime (I keep hoping they'll do a full re-run like they do with the Sopranos occasionally).


esse - Apr 24, 2007 3:25:24 am PDT #863 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I did a rewatch over Christmas to pimp the show to Fay, and saw seasons 1-3 all in one big gulp. It was extraordinarily good its first season.


tiggy - Apr 24, 2007 5:05:18 am PDT #864 of 7329
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

It was extraordinarily good its first season.

you think so? i actually found myself hating everyone(except E and Ari who i just loved to hate) and not really knowing if i wanted to keep watching. season two was much more watchable to me. season three has been awesome.


esse - Apr 24, 2007 5:36:59 am PDT #865 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

heh, it was the reverse for me. I loved season one, remained pleased with season two, and I'm very iffy about season three.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 24, 2007 6:05:31 am PDT #866 of 7329
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Season 3 is the current one, correct? Season 2 was the Aquaman season?


esse - Apr 24, 2007 6:06:34 am PDT #867 of 7329
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Yep.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 24, 2007 6:09:11 am PDT #868 of 7329
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Cool. I think I saw all of sesaon 2, so that's only one season to catch up on.


Polter-Cow - Apr 24, 2007 9:31:35 am PDT #869 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

i actually found myself hating everyone(except E and Ari who i just loved to hate) and not really knowing if i wanted to keep watching.

I'm with tiggy. I'm sort of glad I saw season three first, because the characters are much more likable by that point. Season one is okay, but season two is better, and I, too, really love season three. Which was my first. Well, the first half of it, at least. Or whatever.

I suspect that when the show was created (I only started watching last season so I don't know what it was like initially) that Ari wasn't supposed to be such a central character, but that Piven's been knocking it out of the park so much that they had no choice but to enhance his role.

Like SA said, Ari's always been important, but it does seem like they made Ari a little more sympathetic than he otherwise would have been because Piven's performance was so great and made him a fantastic character and a fan favorite. A friend of mine notes that there's a line in the first episode or two that really implies that Ari sleeps around, but this season, he specifically said that he's never cheated on his wife (when they were married).