Well, I'm kind of inclined to bring the whole panoply of FX shows in here, because Nip/Tuck, The Riches, Dirt and Rescue Me are far more similar in tone and subject matter to Rome, Dexter, Entourage, The Tudors, and The Wire than they are anything on network television. I mean, I don't want to make this a general tv thread, because I know as a community we've decided not to do that. But these are shows that are of a particular genre of its own, in a way. The more bad-ass, no-holds-barred, expletive-shouting, explicitly-fucking, pushing-the-envelope kind of programming. In other words, awesome.

I'm good with that as long as it includes The Shield, which I've never watched but been told by multiple people that I would love.

Yes, that too. I never watched it, as it didn't quite seem my taste. but it's another one of those that fits well into the scheme.

I like the idea too (and would definitely be discussing The Sheild) - it should probably be brought up in B'craxy, though, just so we don't leave anyone out of the loop.

That was going to be my next question. Do you think it's a vote type thing? Or just a minor policy change? Because I'm concerned we're going to get into that big television discussion again, whether this is the network-cable split or not.

It's fine with me, although it wasn't what I thought of initially...I didn't plan for Premium Cable's long Hiatiuses(Hiati? Okay, that's a little Sorkinly...all I need now is to push my chair really fast down a hallway. But I can't type and do that. So.) Actually, Corwood, I personally, cop junkie and all, don't care for The Shield...I think I need people to be a *little* heroic, sometimes. Funny thing to say as such a big Clay Davis fan, but I guess it's true.

Dudes, The Sheild is made of awesome! It's character-driven and arcy and morally ambiguous!

I don't know that I'd start with this season, though - when I say it's arcy, there's stuff being dealt with now that goes back 6 seasons. I honestly can't think of a show with better continuity. So rent the DVDs and catch up before jumping in.)

(sorry for the serial posting- I'm posting from my phone.)

I hope we don't need to vote on this. It seems like a minor enough change to make by bullshit consensus.

I'd rather avoid lightbulbs until we know it's taken off and it's a good fit -- start discussing the other cussing-and-fucking shows, and if the BS consensus sticks, we can worry about making it official later.

Fine with me. I mentioned in b'crazy anyway, so that if people are wondering where we talk about such things they know to look here first.

So the Riches! Man, what a freakin' show. This most recent episode had me alternately squeeing and tearful. I think the best part was when Dahlia and Wayne come in to the lawyer's office and start speaking with these posh British accents, and I just started to crack up at the subtext of it all.