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Mal ,'Ariel'


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Katerina Bee - May 19, 2019 7:31:11 pm PDT #7155 of 7329
Herding cats for fun

Ghost got petted. Jon and Tormund ride again.

Drogon decided not to flame broil his Mom's killer and settled for melting the Iron Throne into slag and nobody gets to sit there. It looked like he was saying, if it weren't for this thing she wouldn't have gone all crazy.

Arya goes off for a life of adventure and Sansa wins the Throne of the North. Right on. My inner fan girl is happy.


Pix - May 19, 2019 8:33:18 pm PDT #7156 of 7329
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

What Katerina said.


Topic!Cindy - May 19, 2019 9:05:51 pm PDT #7157 of 7329
What is even happening?

I liked (or understood/approved of) everyone's fate, except maybe Jon's. Well, his fate was fine; I thought his sentence was bullshit. He killed a genocidal maniac.

I wasn't crazy about the execution of the episode. Very slow. The scene with Tyrion rearranging chairs made me keep looking at the clock.

Overall though, I am please. Dh is not. I feel sorry for him, because he was a much more regular fan than I was.

Arya goes off for a life of adventure and Sansa wins the Throne of the North. Right on. My inner fan girl is happy.

This.


Theodosia - May 20, 2019 1:50:12 am PDT #7158 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Arya sails off into the Uttermost West? Where have I heard that one again?


Tom Scola - May 20, 2019 2:33:09 am PDT #7159 of 7329
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

the North is gonna break away and Dorne isn't? Right.

I was thinking the same thing!

Also, how are the Followers of the Faith going to feel, especially so soon after their Pope was murdered, about having a devout follower of the old gods be their new king? He's probably going to have a weirwood tree planted in King Landing!

Also, so now Sam is now the head of House Tarly, and also the Grand Maester? How is that supposed to work?


Amy - May 20, 2019 4:20:45 am PDT #7160 of 7329
Because books.

Now that it's done, I think the big mistake was shortening the season. All of that could have played out a lot more dramatically and understandably with a regular season. Even Dany's death -- that should have been an episode in itself, with Jon needing convincing, and some kind of plotting about how to do it, when to do it. Instead it was just too easy, like everything else has been (hello, Night King).

I'm on board with where everyone ended up, more or less, but they really screwed up some chances for actual tension and drama by giving us endless shots of people walking. Tyrion walking toward the castle, or whatever. Jon, walking toward the castle. Arya ... Ugh.

And tone was so weird -- like someone said on Facebook, I think, the ending shots were pure telenovella romance, and so was Dany's death and Drogon's rage, but then they switched gears from this high fantasy to an almost too realistic (for values of realism that include dragons, I guess) epilogue where you've got the cleanup and rebuilding, and Bronn snarking and Tyrion sighing. All of which could have worked on its own, but smashed into one episode was a little jarring.

Also, the moment Sam invented a republic was a little TOO too for me, much as I love him, and I just can't buy that the group of nobility assembled there took seriously 30 seconds to chuck their entire system of government for electing whoever without a single argument. Bull. Shit.

Arya's end was really anticlimactic, too. I'm all for her going off to see the world and have adventures, but in this episode she basically walked around, said goodbye to Jon, and laughed at her uncle putting himself forward as king. Not satisfying.

My other real criticism was the jump from Dany being carried off by Drogon to Tyrion being led to the council of nobility. I don't know if I missed something, but they did not make it clear that weeks had passed, so it took me a minute to catch up.


Jessica - May 20, 2019 4:46:16 am PDT #7161 of 7329
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

the North is gonna break away and Dorne isn't? Right

Totes this.

I loved Sansa getting her crown. I liked Drogon melting the iron throne.

Bran winning High King was a little too much "And eventually the children were rescued by, oh, let's say, Moe" for me, but whatever, FINE.


Zenkitty - May 20, 2019 5:33:14 am PDT #7162 of 7329
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I feel sufficiently satisfied by everyone's reactions to the finale that I never need to actually watch the show.


DebetEsse - May 20, 2019 6:13:35 am PDT #7163 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

the moment Sam invented a republic was a little TOO too for me

The only reasoning I can see for it that kind of works is that that's how the Night's Watch does it. Everyone votes. So, Sam was just extrapolating from his own experience.


-t - May 20, 2019 6:15:12 am PDT #7164 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Heh, to Zen.

King's landing already had a Godswood, didn't it? Isn't that where Sansa met whatsisname to plan her escape back in the day? Good point about the Faith, though. They used to have a rep on the small council, didn't they? Odd lack of acknowledging the Stranger through all this, too.

I have come around to kind of hoping that Bran is secretly fully aware that he can father children and will and the Stark dynasty will last just as long and eventually be just as messed up as the Targaryens. Most of the people who were there for the "we'll select the next king" agreement will probably die before he does anyway.