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DebetEsse - May 20, 2019 6:13:35 am PDT #7163 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

the moment Sam invented a republic was a little TOO too for me

The only reasoning I can see for it that kind of works is that that's how the Night's Watch does it. Everyone votes. So, Sam was just extrapolating from his own experience.


-t - May 20, 2019 6:15:12 am PDT #7164 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Heh, to Zen.

King's landing already had a Godswood, didn't it? Isn't that where Sansa met whatsisname to plan her escape back in the day? Good point about the Faith, though. They used to have a rep on the small council, didn't they? Odd lack of acknowledging the Stranger through all this, too.

I have come around to kind of hoping that Bran is secretly fully aware that he can father children and will and the Stark dynasty will last just as long and eventually be just as messed up as the Targaryens. Most of the people who were there for the "we'll select the next king" agreement will probably die before he does anyway.


-t - May 20, 2019 6:16:07 am PDT #7165 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, I was expecting him to mention that, Debet.


Jessica - May 20, 2019 6:20:01 am PDT #7166 of 7329
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

More than one person in my online and real-life circle have pointed out that Bran = Leto II. He doesn't need to father children because as the Three-Eyed Raven he has a millenia-long lifespan.


Jessica - May 20, 2019 6:22:20 am PDT #7167 of 7329
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

In retrospect, I am most impressed by actor-who-plays-Bran's real life agent. I mean, that kid is now a multi-millionaire for basically falling asleep in a chair for 8 years.


Katerina Bee - May 20, 2019 6:39:28 am PDT #7168 of 7329
Herding cats for fun

I always thought that Bran could get with a woman who knows how to do it and become a father.


Laura - May 20, 2019 6:56:36 am PDT #7169 of 7329
Our wings are not tired.

I feel sufficiently satisfied by everyone's reactions to the finale that I never need to actually watch the show.

Same! I've enjoyed reading the reactions each week.


Theodosia - May 20, 2019 8:07:54 am PDT #7170 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

One small aspect I'm taking particular joy in is that of the four surviving primary female characters -- none of them ended up married, all have genuine agency. Sansa will for sure end up marrying, but she is a monarch in her own right -- her husband will be marrying into power not the other way around.

Yara Greyjoy may marry at some point as well, but once again her chosen path doesn't require it.

Arya turned down being Lady Baratheon, and wanted a life of adventure, so who knows where she'd end up lovewise.

Brienne gets the Kingsguard gig, and unless they change the rules she wouldn't be marrying ever. And as we know, she's loved and lost.

This is a pretty good outcome -- I wouldn't call it a happy ending -- for a GRRM story.


-t - May 20, 2019 8:12:56 am PDT #7171 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I wish we had heard her called Queen Sansa of House Stark , first of her name, or whatever, at some point. I'm a little worried that she's technically named Bolton at this point, which I do not like at all. Lady Mormont would have told us she recognizes the Queen in the North whose name is Stark, I'm sure.


Atropa - May 20, 2019 10:25:24 am PDT #7172 of 7329
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Now that it's done, I think the big mistake was shortening the season.

Exactly. For example, the arc of Dany snapping and burning Kings Landing was there from the beginning, but the final path of getting to that point needed more time to be believable.

The production staff and actors did wonderful work for the entire series. I just wish they hadn't been let down by the writers.