Dude, yeah, Wallace broke me.
Yes. Lucky for you, people may be in danger.
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-t - Mar 18, 2007 11:41:22 am PDT #707 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
esse - Mar 18, 2007 1:34:28 pm PDT #708 of 7329
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Guys! We get eyeliner-adorned Antony tonight? How much does that ROCK?
esse - Mar 18, 2007 1:35:13 pm PDT #709 of 7329
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Oh, PS, who's going to be watching The Tudors? Other than, obviously, me? Because Jonathan Rhys Meyers = must see tv for me.
erikaj - Mar 18, 2007 2:11:24 pm PDT #710 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!
Wallace broke Simon y'all. Which I thought, "Whoa...that's deep." because he usually likes to act beyond that sort of thing, even more than George P., who wrote it.(I think George is like me...a big marshmallow who tries to front like he's cool. And he is...his music collection is the shit, and were it not for the name, I'd think he was black.) But, Simon, tough Newsguy still talks about Wallace's death as the toughest thing he ever produced. Ever. Which, in its own way, is a bit like Buffy saying "Mommy?" in The Body. Extra gut-punching.(And I would still write a Dickens ending for Wallace and D'Angelo. I pretend to be comfortable with their harsh realities, but I would still like them to have a secret uncle that is Prime Minister of Liberia. I know y'all feel me on this.
Although my absolute favorite commentary moment is when Domenic West takes a second to thank Wendell Pierce for rescuing him before season two when he tells the predominantly black crowd that the next season will be a "real cracker" and Michael K. Williams(Omar) laughs his ass off.
Jesse - Mar 18, 2007 3:36:15 pm PDT #711 of 7329
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
But, Simon, tough Newsguy still talks about Wallace's death as the toughest thing he ever produced. Ever.
OK, good. Because I think I'm going to be sad about this for a couple of days, and you know that feels ridiculous.
erikaj - Mar 18, 2007 4:14:11 pm PDT #712 of 7329
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Well, he's still sad about it and he knew how it was gonna turn out. And the crew were wrecks and they are Teamsters. Honestly, I don't want to meet the person that could watch that and be like "Anything else on?" Although the end of Season Four made me howl like an animal...George can bring the pain when he wants. It was great, but like(sniff) You bastard! And of course, I thought all the people blogging 'It was great, but really deeply sad.Really really." were writing for punk-assed bitches, not people used to the 'verse like me. So *I* wasn't gonna need any of the Man's damn Kleenex, not me.So, cut to the end of the hour, me crying for the pain of the world, tears running everywhere, blowing my nose on a deposit slip(which still seems appropriate, if chafing) while my mother is looking at me like 'This is why we pay $20 extra a month and can't go to dinner on Sundays...Okay. Why not just pay somebody to kick you in the guts, too." and I'm still mumbling "Fuckin' Pelecanos, man. Did it to me AGAIN." and wondering if I can get my fake mystery-writing boyfriend on charges of domestic abuse. But it was brilliant and I wouldn't trade it...those feelings are my *humanity*, and thank God I still have them.(I'm still looking for a place to use the insights I got from that, actually.) So, to make a short story long, I don't think you have anything to apologize for...there are real "Wallaces" you know.
erikaj - Mar 18, 2007 4:30:16 pm PDT #713 of 7329
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Cheerios(Hey, they're Omar's favorites): I'm still glad, however, that most shows do not try for that level of visceral response, as it would take years off my life.
- Fuckin'* George. Making me cry like a bitch.
Hayden - Mar 19, 2007 6:29:15 am PDT #714 of 7329
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
Because I think I'm going to be sad about this for a couple of days, and you know that feels ridiculous.
Like Erika said, that hurt doesn't really go away. Should say a lot about a show that years later, I still feel sad for a fictional teenage drug runner.
erikaj - Mar 19, 2007 8:51:11 am PDT #715 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!
Somehow that kind of reminds me of a hoax we studied in journalism school. Some woman named Janet Something wrote this story about "Jimmy" the preteen drug fiend in The Washington Post, about how he shared works with his parents and etc. Except Janet made it up, or at least it wasn't able to be corroborated, and when somebody talked to her editor at the Post later, he said the worst part was that there could be real Jimmys out there, and nobody would believe it.ETA: Yeah, Corwood, I'm fine *now* but the end of Season Four did apparently bring up things or something...I'm usually not the type to cry at television.
esse - Mar 19, 2007 11:29:52 am PDT #716 of 7329
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So I think this episode of Rome should be subtitled "Portrait of Mark Antony as a Rent Boy."
I have no idea how I'm going to deal with only one more episode of this. I just desperately wish they would film a third season.
Also? Watch Pullo's eyes through the whole scene with Gaia. He went from love to confusion to horror to hatred to fierce, unyielding resolution in mere seconds, and then followed it with self-loathing and then hatred again. I cannot believe how much he conveyed with his eyes and the set of his mouth without saying a word. Incredible.
And poor Vorenus. That is the look of a man who misses his boyfriend.