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Hil R. - Jun 27, 2016 9:54:10 am PDT #6589 of 7329
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Did they specifically say the wine was poisoned? I'd thought that Cercei has pretty much just told Lancel to make sure that Robert always had wine in his hand, and Robert got drunk enough to take care of the rest.


Amy - Jun 27, 2016 9:58:06 am PDT #6590 of 7329
Because books.

When Cersei was sleeping with what cousin?


Hil R. - Jun 27, 2016 10:00:57 am PDT #6591 of 7329
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

So, which direction do we think Arya will be headed next -- south to King's Landing to finish off her list, or north to Winterfell to go home like she said she wanted? Or west to find out what's there?

Also, in the "What even is this cosmology?" question, someone (Jon, I think) made a comment about "the enemy is the one who brings the storm" or something like that. Which fits in with some hints we've gotten about how the seasons work. But I'd still like to know how a "year" is defined in that world.


Hil R. - Jun 27, 2016 10:01:27 am PDT #6592 of 7329
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

When Cersei was sleeping with what cousin?

Lancel.


Tom Scola - Jun 27, 2016 10:39:17 am PDT #6593 of 7329
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which direction do we think Arya will be headed next

Melisandre has prophesied that the two of them will meet again, and she happens to be on the list.


-t - Jun 27, 2016 11:05:52 am PDT #6594 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Years are years, seasons can be multiple years long. There's planting time and harvest time every year (to some extent) but Summer and Winter are these other things of varying duration. Is my understanding.

Sometimes I am half-convinced that this isn't a world of human beings at all, they're, like, fruit-flies or something. I haven't thought it through thoroughly, but it seems like it might explain a lot.

Melisandre has prophesied that the two of them will meet again, and she happens to be on the list.

Oh, yeah? I forgot that. Convenient that Melisandre is heading south, then.

I want to say Cersei told Lancel he was letting Robert get drunk but the wine was actually poisoned but I don't remember why I think that, much less if it was made clear on screen.


Hil R. - Jun 27, 2016 11:08:48 am PDT #6595 of 7329
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Years are years, seasons can be multiple years long. There's planting time and harvest time every year (to some extent) but Summer and Winter are these other things of varying duration. Is my understanding.

But how do they define years? If it's one full revolution around the sun, then the maesters must be incredibly confused.


-t - Jun 27, 2016 11:12:31 am PDT #6596 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Why?


Amy - Jun 27, 2016 11:58:01 am PDT #6597 of 7329
Because books.

I forgot Cersei was sleeping with Lancel. Honestly, I had completely forgotten about Lancel until I realized who he was last night.

But how do they define years?

I thought a year was a year, but Summer or Winter was a period that went over many years. My understanding was that it's been Summer until now (despite the cold/snow in the north), simply because it's not Winter. Winter seems like the big nasty one, and when it comes it seems like there's a period of recoup and rebuilding after. But that's just my impression.


Hil R. - Jun 27, 2016 1:00:16 pm PDT #6598 of 7329
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Right, a year is a year, but how do THEY define it? They can't just say "a year is a year." From the World of Ice and Fire book, I think the maester writing it says that some other maester had suggested that the seasons are caused by the tilt of the earth, but the other maesters dismissed that as nonsense. There have been a lot of hints that there's something supernatural driving the seasons, but if they're dismissing the tilt of the earth as being meaningful, and they're not seeing the actual effects of the earth's revolution, and I'm not totally sure they've accepted the earth as round, then I'm not sure what they're looking at when they count out years. What is there in their world that makes 365 days a meaningful measure of time?