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Sean K - May 23, 2016 4:43:24 pm PDT #6476 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

A Song of Ice and Fire,

or

How Dolorous Edd Came To Be

Lord Commander Of The Night's Watch.

In other thoughts...

I liked Sansa embroidering the wolf on her dress. In the books, it's kind of a thing that she doesn't really identify as a Stark, or as a northerner, too much -- she sees herself as her mother's daughter -- so that struck me as a big deal. That she's sick of playing the southern courtly games, and she's all in with the North.

I hadn't put that together until you pointed it out, Hil.


Jessica - May 23, 2016 6:39:43 pm PDT #6477 of 7329
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I imagine many huge sighs of relief around the writers room table once they realized they were far enough past the books they could just write a good story, and not be tied down to GRRM's unintelligible mutterings grand vision. (Though I am somewhat skeptical that the Stark plan to ride around the North talking to minor characters we've never met will yield much in the way of narrative oomph. Probably something will go wrong that will make it more exciting.)

Sansa was spectacular last night. Her face when she told Littlefinger "I AM harmed."

Play!Ned saying "I'm starting to think you people can't be trusted" = comedy GOLD.

I would also at some point like Arya's story to move forward. Either she becomes a Faceless Man or she learns all their tricks and then escapes with a sack full of faces so she can murder Cersei.


DavidS - May 23, 2016 8:26:43 pm PDT #6478 of 7329
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Somebody elsewhere in some comments thread explained the Wyllis-Hodor thing in a way that got me to grasp it better.

Bran warging into Hodor while being in the presence of Wylis linked Wylis and Hodor - so just in case you thought it couldn't get worse think about young Wylis experiencing everything Hodor was going through.

Which means also that Hodor knew that moment was coming his whole life.


Polter-Cow - May 24, 2016 8:53:00 am PDT #6479 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Which means also that Hodor knew that moment was coming his whole life.

Oh SHIT. No wonder he was so loyal to Bran.


Sean K - May 24, 2016 9:08:49 am PDT #6480 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, it really is so much worse than you initially think it is, on a couple of levels. Because there was a functioning mind still in there. He understood when other people spoke. Since he was mostly a functional person, one can only hope that he mostly suppressed the memory (although it certainly explains why he was always utterly freaked out by violence). But even with it partially or mostly suppressed, he had to understand on some level where the journey was taking him (the deep cryptic sadness in Kristian Nairn's "hodors" this season are so perfectly played).

So it's is simultaneously both this horrible thing Bran did to Hodor, and yet still Hodor's heroic, selfless choice.

And of course, part of why and how it so gutting, on top of just caring about Hodor as a character, is the realization that the awful truth has been right in front of your face the entire time. You just didn't understand what you were looking at.


SuziQ - May 24, 2016 9:34:30 am PDT #6481 of 7329
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

CALLING ALL BUFFISTAE - please check out my post in Beep Me (probably should have put it in Press, too late now).


Polter-Cow - May 24, 2016 9:54:20 am PDT #6482 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So it's is simultaneously both this horrible thing Bran did to Hodor, and yet still Hodor's heroic, selfless choice.

I like the idea that Hodor knew it was coming and so he deliberately stayed with Bran to protect him all this time because it was bothering me that the actual door-holding was not his decision.


DavidS - May 24, 2016 2:03:21 pm PDT #6483 of 7329
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

You know, I realize now that I'm only just beginning to understand the distinction between the White Walkers and the army of zombie wights.

But all of the babies turned out at Craster's Keep were turned into White Walkers. But wights are just any old dead that get raised up by the Night King.

And you can kill the wights buy chopping and fire (Trad Zombie).

But you need Dragonglass/Obsidian or Valyrian Steel to kill a White Walker. (Probably dragon fire too.)


Tom Scola - May 25, 2016 8:53:28 am PDT #6484 of 7329
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

TOO SOON!


DavidS - May 25, 2016 9:05:17 am PDT #6485 of 7329
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

TOO SOON!

Heh.