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Is that what Brutus was doing? I didn't really understand that bit.

I think he was looking to get a new start, and he sought out a baptism and his own gods to do it. Either way, it was a powerful scene.

does Vorenus have a connection to Octavian or is he an Antony man all the way?

He was always Antony ( and Caesar's) man. Pullo had the connection to Vorenus, as they had mutual interests for awhile--Antony hired him to teach Octavian how to fight, and Octavian and Pullo conspired to have Vorenus' brother in law killed. Now that Vorenus has followed Antony to Gaul, and Pullo is following, it will be interesting to see if they both end up on Antony's side or Octavian's.

Damn spoilers! I've forgotten the finger points of Agrippa's role, and I almost wikied him but decided I'd rather be reminded by suprise.

I can understand how they can't afford this show, though. Every single scene is beauty.

I think he was looking to get a new start, and he sought out a baptism and his own gods to do it. Either way, it was a powerful scene.

Agreed. I got the new start, but I didn't make the connection to foreign garb in a foreign land and calling on his own gods. Reinforcing his Roman-ness. Interesting.

Thanks for the recap of V and P's involvement with Octavian. I thought that was it, but it was a while ago and I can't keep all these characters and their relationships in my head. So, there will be hard decisions made, however it shakes out.

Now that Vorenus has followed Antony to Gaul, and Pullo is following, it will be interesting to see if they both end up on Antony's side or Octavian's.

The potential's there for them to end up on opposing sides. If Vorenus doesn't pull his head out of his ass soon. I think Pullo likes and respects Octavian--and would certainly follow him. I just hope Vorenus realizes that Octavian is the one protecting the Republic (go Pax Romana!) and that Antony just wants to be another tyrant.

I think the biggest reason I love those two is because they were real (mentioned in Julius Ceasar's writings) but we have no idea how they turned out. The rest of the characters have documentation. So, no historical spoilers for Lucius and Pullo.

but I didn't make the connection to foreign garb in a foreign land and calling on his own gods. Reinforcing his Roman-ness. Interesting.

Yep. The overgrown hair, the messy beard; but the most telling thing was the mantle over the long tunic. It fit him beautifully, but it was definitely Turkish. And you could see, writ in every line of his body, how tired he was being away from home. From Rome, from civilisation. It was reflected in Attia's same wariness about going to Macedonia.

The potential's there for them to end up on opposing sides. If Vorenus doesn't pull his head out of his ass soon. I think Pullo likes and respects Octavian--and would certainly follow him. I just hope Vorenus realizes that Octavian is the one protecting the Republic (go Pax Romana!) and that Antony just wants to be another tyrant.

This is very true. I mean, I hope that Vorenus has found some small part of himself while exiling himself in Gaul, or will come back to himself when Pullo tells him his children are alive. But I could easily see it going the other way too. I also don't expect Antony to just let Vorenus go in the middle of civil war, even if his children are in need of rescue. So that'll be an interesting conflict.

So, no historical spoilers for Lucius and Pullo.

Also, they are so fantastically three dimensional and deep. I could watch just the Vorenus and Pullo show and be happy. I love them.

I saw my first full episode of EXTRAS last night, after catching only the Bowie portion of the last episode, and while at times it was almost watch-from-hall cringe-worthy (though still funny), it also made me laugh like drain. Daniel Radcliffe was absolutely hysterical, and his interactions with Diana Rigg were priceless. I'm ashamed to say I totally didn't recognize who she was until DR asked her if she still had the Avengers cat suit.

Feeling "skanky, and kinda gay," this morning...Watched The L Word disc one yesterday. Some of those women are amazingly hot. Pam Grier is still awesome. That's all I've got because I think it is not supposed to *mean* much. Like Sex and The City that's gay. (Except for that whole thing of a group of women seeing themselves on TV and stuff. Which I kind of get, because there's never been a crip show. If there is I want it to be a Sorkin joint...cause "rolling and talking" shots would be too damn funny, you know?)

The L Word pretty much sucks. I enjoyed S1 and somewhat enjoyed S2, but since then it's just really really bad. Still Jennifer Beals and Leisha Hailey keep me coming back for more. How hot is J Beals?????

She's beautiful. Still not much of an actress, but very beautiful.

So, I'm actually kind of sold on New!Octavian. I love the slightly reserved quality he portrays the character. I mean, I loved the original Octavian more? But this guy will do. I also really dig that with Agrippa and Poet!Guy, it's like a new generation of Roman leaders, which is entertaining. And the scene in the slave camp was just heartrending. I'm really wondering what new trajectory the Pullo and Vorenus storyline is going towards next, because I have no clue. Although I titter at the idea of Pullo and Vorenus raising the kids. Together! Like two dads. Yes.