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Theodosia - May 12, 2014 10:57:48 am PDT #5844 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Margaery at least believes Tyrion is innocent.


Amy - May 12, 2014 11:03:04 am PDT #5845 of 7329
Because books.

I thought one of Maergery's reactions seemed to be horror, as in not knowing exactly how bad Joffrey was. I thought she was reacting to Tyrion, but I could be wrong. I'd have to rewatch, too.

Loras's expression didn't change much, I thought.


DebetEsse - May 12, 2014 11:07:21 am PDT #5846 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

What was that?

The first, maybe? I recall specifically that there was a cut to the Tyrells after Tyrion said something, and not only was there no reason for them to be having a particular reaction to the line, they didn't seem to react at all.

In short, I am Hil.

Margaery at least believes Tyrion is innocent.

Yes, there were some reactions that were definitely getting at this.

I thought one of Maergery's reactions seemed to be horror, as in not knowing exactly how bad Joffrey was.

And this. I hope they pay it off in her arc, in some way.

Loras's expression didn't change much, I thought.

Not really at all, no.


Amy - May 12, 2014 11:25:43 am PDT #5847 of 7329
Because books.

Margaery at least believes Tyrion is innocent.

Olenna more or less told her as much, didn't she? Although I guess she didn't go into detail about how the murder was accomplished.


DebetEsse - May 12, 2014 11:41:42 am PDT #5848 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yeah, I'd go very near to making the verb "know" rather than "believe"


tommyrot - May 13, 2014 4:55:02 am PDT #5849 of 7329
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

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§ ita § - May 13, 2014 6:05:20 pm PDT #5850 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Inexperienced as I am with warfare of any scale, if Dany took the Iron Throne and still had the Unsullied (or most of them) and dragons (or most of them), couldn't she make Slaver's Bay behave?

My nurse keeps asking me questions I can't answer. Who's Oberyn related to? The Starks? She insists that, but I don't remember having heard it.


Amy - May 13, 2014 6:09:58 pm PDT #5851 of 7329
Because books.

Oberyn (Oberon?) is a Martell, and I don't think they're related to the Lannisters at all, although I could be wrong.

The Iron Throne doesn't have sovereignty over Slaver's Bay, does it? I thought Slaver's Bay was part of the world Dany's in now, not Westeros. But again, I could be wrong!


§ ita § - May 13, 2014 6:20:51 pm PDT #5852 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Iron Throne doesn't have sovereignty over Slaver's Bay, does it?

No, but I assume if she did it right, she'd be more powerful. Or would it be one more example of "once you've beaten it you have to stay with it"?

Can't other people lead her armies back to the Bay while she sics one of her dragons on her Westeros detractors?

It doesn't make sense for Oberyn to be a Stark, otherwise why would the Lannister daughter be sent there for safekeeping. Do we know of any Stark or Tully relatives other than crazy attachment parenting lady?


DebetEsse - May 13, 2014 6:20:57 pm PDT #5853 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Oberyn is of the royal house of Dorne, who are not related to anyone, really, except that they did intermarry with the Targaryens a lot, back in the day. He's from the opposite end of the continent from the Starks, and probably particularly dislikes them, as his sister's (the dead one he keeps bringing up) husband (dead prince Rhaegar) left her for Ned Stark's sister (Now also dead, but who are we to let that stop us from holding a grudge?).

Slaver's Bay is in Essos, across the sea from Westeros (to the east. Isn't George clever.), though on the same continent as where Stannis is/recently was (Braavos), which is the same city where Arya's fighting teacher was from. Essos is not a single political entity in the way the seven kingdoms of Westeros are (to the extent that they are...) it's more the Classical Greek and Italian city-state model.