The money was too good. I got stupid.

Jayne ,'Ariel'


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Sue - May 08, 2014 1:56:22 pm PDT #5814 of 7329
hip deep in pie

Yeah, this season I could swear that he sounds different.

His first scene back he was full-on Irish, and I was like. "Wait, what? I didn't think Littlefinger was Irish before. Is my memory that bad?" It's been drifting around the British Isles since then.


Hil R. - May 08, 2014 1:57:01 pm PDT #5815 of 7329
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

People have been commenting on his wandering accent since the first season.


le nubian - May 08, 2014 2:00:14 pm PDT #5816 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm not completely convinced he has a long-term goal other than get everything he didn't have as a child

This is wild to me. He is potentially risking his life at every turn.


-t - May 08, 2014 6:58:22 pm PDT #5817 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

But you'd also be risking your life just standing around minding your own business in Westeros. Might be riskier, even.


le nubian - May 09, 2014 1:21:50 pm PDT #5818 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

so, perhaps. I am trying to get a sense of how stable things were before the first ep of the series.


-t - May 09, 2014 1:26:11 pm PDT #5819 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, good point, yes. They did seem more stable to the casual observer, I guess - one king, not actually at war. Littlefinger was privy to the whole "there are still Targaryens out there and they must die" thing that Robert had going on, right?

Also, I think he's the kind of guy who is absolutely certain he will not get caught.


le nubian - May 09, 2014 1:37:02 pm PDT #5820 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

note: I am not trying to contradict your points. I haven't read the books, so I am trying to suss out GRRM's larger themes and if his point is that nearly all characters have fatal flaws and have weaknesses being leaders.

I personally don't care about spoilers FYI. I am still barely hanging on with all the characters but it is better than S1.


-t - May 09, 2014 1:52:37 pm PDT #5821 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, I'm just spouting ideas as they occur to me, I'm not attached any of my answers. It's an interesting question.


DebetEsse - May 09, 2014 4:55:29 pm PDT #5822 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Also, I think he's the kind of guy who is absolutely certain he will not get caught.

This. Also he was the money guy, and financed everything by loans, which, I think, says a lot about him. It also meant that he was instrumental in ensuring that everything went to shit on two fronts.

I do think his "chaos is a ladder" quote is sort of his mission statement.

I half wonder if, until the Red Wedding, he wasn't still hoping to get a shot at Catelyn.


-t - May 09, 2014 7:03:24 pm PDT #5823 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, I'm sure he was.