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DebetEsse - Apr 20, 2014 6:39:53 pm PDT #5681 of 7329

Woe to the fucking wicked.

And, having read an interview with the actor, I'm not sure I'm gonna get over it in the near future.

So, for non-readers who want to know why we're 7 kinds of pissed off about the Jaime and Cersei scene in the Sept:

In the books, Jaime and Brienne get back to KL AFTER Joff dies. So, the first time Cersei sees him again in in the sept. They have fucked up, but basically consensual, sex. She's all kinds of distraught (and, to be fair, mad props to Lena on her acting in this episode) and doesn't have the months of habitual shuddering away from his residual limb. After that, their relationship falls apart, as has already happened on the show, and she won't touch him again.

-t - Apr 20, 2014 6:46:34 pm PDT #5682 of 7329

I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Pod is the best.

The ominous "They"

A standout line, for sure.

Strix - Apr 20, 2014 8:30:16 pm PDT #5683 of 7329

A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Which actor, Debet?

le nubian - Apr 20, 2014 10:28:28 pm PDT #5684 of 7329

"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

All,

thanks for the comments about my question above. I kind of (spoiler response) was hoping for another twist regarding the poisoning, but alas.

DebetEsse - Apr 21, 2014 2:16:55 am PDT #5685 of 7329

Woe to the fucking wicked.

Strix, Nikolaj (gonna butcher his surname, so not even trying) who plays Jaime.

Jessica - Apr 21, 2014 10:44:16 am PDT #5686 of 7329

And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Yeah, I am very much Not On Board with how the Septcest went down on the teevee. Though I suppose this is as good a time as any to remind people that Jaime should not be anyone's woobie. With losing a hand and being basically nice to Brienne for a season and a half by now, he was getting dangerously close to being considered one of the good guys.

le nubian - Apr 21, 2014 11:30:08 am PDT #5687 of 7329

"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yep. but there have to be other ways to handle that (e.g. have him dismiss Tyrion)

Theodosia - Apr 21, 2014 11:37:50 am PDT #5688 of 7329

'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm surprisingly OK with the rape. These are not the good guys, and even if Jaime occasionally shows a good streak that indicates he could have once been a worthwhile human being... he really isn't.

Jessica - Apr 21, 2014 11:41:15 am PDT #5689 of 7329

And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Tyrion is another character I would like de-woobified, but I don't think the show is ever going to really make that right.

§ ita § - Apr 21, 2014 12:36:59 pm PDT #5690 of 7329

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've seen readers elsewhere complaining that a) it didn't go down that way in the book and b) it ruined a character that was being redeemed in the book. Do you disagree, readers?

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