All,
thanks for the comments about my question above. I kind of (spoiler response) was hoping for another twist regarding the poisoning, but alas.
But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!
Wash ,'War Stories'
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le nubian - Apr 20, 2014 10:28:28 pm PDT #5684 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
DebetEsse - Apr 21, 2014 2:16:55 am PDT #5685 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Strix, Nikolaj (gonna butcher his surname, so not even trying) who plays Jaime.
Jessica - Apr 21, 2014 10:44:16 am PDT #5686 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Yeah, I am very much Not On Board with how the Septcest went down on the teevee. Though I suppose this is as good a time as any to remind people that Jaime should not be anyone's woobie. With losing a hand and being basically nice to Brienne for a season and a half by now, he was getting dangerously close to being considered one of the good guys.
le nubian - Apr 21, 2014 11:30:08 am PDT #5687 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
yep. but there have to be other ways to handle that (e.g. have him dismiss Tyrion)
Theodosia - Apr 21, 2014 11:37:50 am PDT #5688 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I'm surprisingly OK with the rape. These are not the good guys, and even if Jaime occasionally shows a good streak that indicates he could have once been a worthwhile human being... he really isn't.
Jessica - Apr 21, 2014 11:41:15 am PDT #5689 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Tyrion is another character I would like de-woobified, but I don't think the show is ever going to really make that right.
§ ita § - Apr 21, 2014 12:36:59 pm PDT #5690 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I've seen readers elsewhere complaining that a) it didn't go down that way in the book and b) it ruined a character that was being redeemed in the book. Do you disagree, readers?
Theodosia - Apr 21, 2014 12:51:08 pm PDT #5691 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Since Martin not only seems to have good input for the show, but awesome respect by the show runners, I'll assume he's copacetic with the change.
DebetEsse - Apr 21, 2014 1:44:08 pm PDT #5692 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.
ita, it didn't go down that way in the book. I...I am increasingly less sure of the second point. I have spent a significant amount of brainpower today thinking about the psychology of rape in two specific circumstances, and I'm not especially pleased about that. I'll post once I have coherent thoughts.
§ ita § - Apr 21, 2014 2:20:44 pm PDT #5693 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'll assume he's copacetic with the change.
He said he wasn't consulted.
It just looks like Something Red all over again, but this time I'm David Fury.