Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Premium Cable: The Cursing Costs Extra

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jessica - Jan 18, 2007 2:07:42 pm PST #560 of 7329
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

theirloveissopure...


esse - Jan 18, 2007 2:41:56 pm PST #561 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

and so bloody!


Fay - Jan 21, 2007 9:52:20 pm PST #562 of 7329
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

But you totally have to watch Ian McShane, even as you hate him.

fwiw, I don't hate Al. I think he's quite a good bloke, all things considered.

And it's nice sometimes, when you're broke like me and you feel that your life is not working in some way, not to be again watching pretty people you envy get off, which of course sells a lot of soap to the hooples.

Therein lies the philosophy of British soaps. Our huddled masses like to watch proper actors who can act playing poor people with cellulite and dodgy hair and bad teeth having crappy things happen to them in crappy locations, rather than watch crappy actors from the Valley Of The Implausibly Gorgeous playing shiny airbrushed people with perfect skin and expensive haircuts having crappy things happen to them in expensive locations.

(Man, I remember being totally wrecked by an episode of Eastenders which was entirely a two-hander, with June Brown's 70-something year old Dot Cotten (the character is a chainsmoking busybody who works in a laundrette, a devout Christian whose husband was A Bad Lot, and whose son was an Even Worse Lot, but who has finally (after several decades) been wooed by and wed quite a nice bloke) wrestle with whether or not to assist her old friend Ethel (80-something, and very wee and frail, played by Gretchen Franklin) with committing suicide. It was absolutely heart breaking stuff, and not at all sappy. Just wrenching. Crap. And now I'm crying just remembering it. Argh.)

...well, and then there's Hollyoaks, which is a British Soap that wants to be an Australian soap and is full of pretty young people. (Australian soaps are sort of the middle place between US and UK soaps - still working class settings, but the people are prettier and younger, on the whole.)


Sean K - Jan 22, 2007 8:23:18 am PST #563 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I don't hate Al. I think he's quite a good bloke, all things considered.

All things considered, Al is a very decent human being who just happens to be capable of hard core violence when it's needed.


erikaj - Jan 22, 2007 9:14:58 am PST #564 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

Well, at first, my first reaction was a love-to hate one. But he's more complicated than he looks and there are far darker forces in Deadwood than he is. Which I like, though it did rob me of my Snidely Whiplash experience. Does everyone know BET has started running The Wire? The expletives get cut, which makes at least one scene I love deeply into mime(Because it was totally just two detectives saying "Fuck." and "Motherfucker" with...every conceivable inflection and understanding each other perfectly.) I happened to see a commercial with Idris Elba playing a romantic lead in a movie. Hope it is better than his last one. Still blown away that he's a UK-er. His American accent is perfect. Apparently, drug dealers used to stop him on the street and confide in him all the time.


Hayden - Jan 22, 2007 9:17:32 am PST #565 of 7329
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I think you two are fooling yourselves. Al's a child-murderer capable of killing anyone at any time if it gives him an advantage. His growing sense of community and restraint is admirable and his charisma is undeniable, but if you knew Al in real life, you'd be wise to keep yourself at considerable remove.


Hayden - Jan 22, 2007 9:19:06 am PST #566 of 7329
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I've heard that BET's run of The Wire is mostly uncut, just dubbed over the "shit"s and "fuck"s and blurred over the nipples.


Scrappy - Jan 22, 2007 9:22:50 am PST #567 of 7329
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I hear ya, Corwood, but an McShane is so dang attractive that it clouds my judgment. He's one of those guys that many women go gaga over and men say "Really? But..he's old, and not in great shape and not gorgeous and, and and...." Almost every actress in the series who has spoken on commentaries mentions how sexy he is.

But, yeah, Al is not a safe person to get close to. He is capapble of generous acts, but not on a predictable basis.


erikaj - Jan 22, 2007 9:27:00 am PST #568 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

Well, that's true. Swergin is compelling as hell, and there is a soft part, but decent?(shrugs) Al is the anti-Sobatka. He does *right* things for *wrong* reasons.


Hayden - Jan 22, 2007 9:29:55 am PST #569 of 7329
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

He's one of those guys that many women go gaga over and men say "Really? But..he's old, and not in great shape and not gorgeous and, and and...."

Oh, I get that. I love his take on Swearingen so much that even I would make out with him.