No, he had some health problems.
Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.
'Not Fade Away'
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sumi - Apr 30, 2012 10:35:48 am PDT #4398 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!
-t - Apr 30, 2012 10:39:17 am PDT #4399 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
It's impressive how quickly and completely Lancel went from thinking he was on top of the world to seeing he was utterly screwed.
This episode had a lot of of women wielding power in various ways, didn't it? Brienne, Cat, Margaery, Arya, Daenarys. We didn't see Cersei, did we? But we know her well enough to see her reflection in Margaery. And, of course, Melisandre.
tiggy - Apr 30, 2012 12:36:51 pm PDT #4400 of 7329
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
we saw Cersei. Tyrion was trying to get Joffrey's war plan out of her.
-t - Apr 30, 2012 12:41:06 pm PDT #4401 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Oh, right. Well, there you go.
I'm not actually sure that fits the point I was making, but, whatever. Womenfolk, lots of 'em, doing stuff.
Amy - Apr 30, 2012 1:08:25 pm PDT #4402 of 7329
Because books.
I think that's my only disconnect -- I seem to remember before the series began and I started reading the books that some people were upset by Martin's treatment of women. But I think there are a lot of really strong women characters in the series. Am I misremembering that?
sj - Apr 30, 2012 1:09:03 pm PDT #4403 of 7329
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Big C: I love the addition of Victor Garber to the cast.
Theodosia - Apr 30, 2012 3:08:36 pm PDT #4404 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
No, Amy, I think I can remembr some of the same complaints -- it's easy to dismiss on the surface, but then the same people tend to read the books as a glorification of knighthood and ye olde Medieval Times, which they aren't either.
Jessica - Apr 30, 2012 6:35:37 pm PDT #4405 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think most of those complaints came after certain events in book 4 and 5. Which I can understand, even if I don't agree.
le nubian - May 01, 2012 3:14:52 am PDT #4406 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I am sitting in my car dealership for major routine maintenance on the car and when I checked my car in, the attendant had "Game of Thrones" DVD set on his desk.
I said "that's a good series, right?"
He said: "yeah, but some of those things that occur, it is surprising to know they happened back in those times!"
!!!
So, while I am sure plot points and descriptions are drawn from European medieval times, I never did think dragons, witches, and demons coming from a woman's loins were part of our shared medieval history.
Did I miss a class in college? Or is this the Enlightenment?
Liese S. - May 01, 2012 4:51:15 pm PDT #4407 of 7329
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
That's why it's so surprising, right?