River: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are. Mal: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?

'Safe'


Premium Cable: The Cursing Costs Extra

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IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 29, 2006 12:16:13 pm PST #379 of 7329
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

Ok, Six Feet Under people: Why don't I feel the love?

Six Feet Under is the greatest show I've ever seen but that has less to do with it being generally successful and more to do with it striving in directions I think important.

When it was at its best, it eschewed almost all the trappings of high-brow and low-brow fiction so it could have fidelity to the character's interior lives as its first, last and middle concerns. Like, Claire's arc in season two is, when you strip away the specifics, identical to her arc in season three. So, by letting the characters become victims of habit, then have them wake up to it, then having them become victims of some slightly different habit that degrades in the exact same way and by asking 'But why? But why? But why?', it shaded in some pretty ugly psychological mechanisms that all people share. Like the unavoidable tendency to objectify and the almost unavoidable tendency to romanticize people we're in relationships with. The character-up approach to writing is optimum, I think, because if you stick close to it, dogma can't get in and infect it. When it got philosophical and started up offering answers to their characters' predicaments, I cringed but it was expert at elucidating the problems.


erikaj - Oct 29, 2006 12:33:04 pm PST #380 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

huh. Interesting thought. I do generally like the acting.


Glamcookie - Oct 29, 2006 1:37:37 pm PST #381 of 7329
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I'm in erika and Corwood's corner re: Six Feet Under. GF didn't care for it either. We just didn't give a shit about any of the characters.


lisah - Oct 29, 2006 1:43:40 pm PST #382 of 7329
Punishingly Intricate

Six Feet Under people: Why don't I feel the love?

Although I watched it off and on througout its run I never loved it either. It always seemed like it was trying to hard to be cool. Plus all the characters bugged the shit out of me and I wanted to slap all of them. a lot.


Tom Scola - Oct 29, 2006 1:48:36 pm PST #383 of 7329
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

There wasn't a single character on 6FU that I cared about.

And a few that were insufferable.


Gus - Oct 29, 2006 4:29:33 pm PST #384 of 7329
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

6FU had the greatest series finale. Ever.

Tom, me brother... You are doing that cynic thing, with the hyperbole thing.


Gus - Oct 29, 2006 5:16:45 pm PST #385 of 7329
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

C'mon, peoples! New Wire.


erikaj - Oct 29, 2006 6:13:42 pm PST #386 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

I don't think I've ever enjoyed saying anything in my life as much as those children enjoy "*FUCK* you, you cheese-faced bitch!" Unless I could pay a bunch of them to call up, say, Ann Coulter's house. On a more substantial note, I almost feel that I won't be able to take it if Pres gets surprised in the supply closet again...hurts to watch. But I don't want to punk out or anything.


Hayden - Oct 29, 2006 8:52:00 pm PST #387 of 7329
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Man, I laughed like hell at that line.

So, looks like Carcetti might be thinking about pushing Daniels up to Commissioner. Can a mayor do that?


esse - Oct 30, 2006 12:04:28 am PST #388 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I watched the first season of six feet under a couple of years ago, and while I enjoyed it entertainment-wise, it was definitely a show that I was doing other things while I was watching. I liked--and I say this about the show, definitely not in RL--watching the people die at the beginning; it was a clever way to approach the fact that they were going to be dealing with a dead body every episode without making it trite, like every cop show ever.

Also, Gus is totally right WRT the series ending. I watched the last, like, ten minutes on YouTube, and by the end I had shed a couple tears, despite the pixelation. Excellent.