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Barb - May 09, 2011 4:25:33 pm PDT #3467 of 7329
“Not dead yet!”

Fanboys/girls exist everywhere. For me, I'm of the dedicated ilk who can love a writer/performer/show to absolute death and still be extremely critical. In fact, I become more critical the more I love something-- blind acceptance/dithering does no one any good and those cats-- the true professioanls-- know it better than anyone.

Unlike say, Justn Beiber, that little twat, who got his knickers in a twist because an award-winning, highly respected actress called him a brat for less-than-professional behavior on set.

And I say all this not having seen last night's ep, yet, but knowing what's got folks howling. (The Slate piece was actually pretty good- very measured in what they thought worked and what didn't.) This just happens to be one of my particular hot buttons.


erin_obscure - May 09, 2011 4:34:43 pm PDT #3468 of 7329
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Of course, THAT is why Jamie Lannister looks so gall darned familiar. I *loved* New Amsterdam. Plenty of gratuitous shots of him swimming nekkid. That was some fine network television.


erin_obscure - May 09, 2011 4:34:43 pm PDT #3469 of 7329
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Hayden - May 09, 2011 4:48:44 pm PDT #3470 of 7329
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I'll check out the Slate piece. Matt Zoller Seitz over at Salon had many of the same problems I did, although he expressed them better. His comments are full of the same fanboys.


Barb - May 09, 2011 5:06:05 pm PDT #3471 of 7329
“Not dead yet!”

Actually, Hayden, it was Salon. I don't know why I said Slate. D'uh. Don't mind me-- have been buried in the manuscript all day and brain not quite functioning right.


erikaj - May 09, 2011 6:54:58 pm PDT #3472 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

Well, it could be Slate...they write those, sometimes. Nobody they've got is as smart as MSZ, though, and I'm not saying that cause he linked to me once. He plainly loves both Simon's oeuvre and "Treme" in particular...if he didn't, he wouldn't care.


erikaj - May 09, 2011 7:20:44 pm PDT #3473 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

"You're making my side look stupid...stay off my side." And *fuck* all y'all trying to make Matt's gender an issue as regards crimes against women. And, you're right Hayden...I remember Yoshimura as architect of several unfavorite H:LOTS subplots. I got his name confused with the director's. And, while we're at it, Seda's kind of a weak link, too. But somebody's gotta be, right? And all he's gotta do is be fast-talking, oily, and ingratiating right? Meh.


erin_obscure - May 09, 2011 8:54:18 pm PDT #3474 of 7329
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

aGoT ep2! i feel like i need a watch n post for this show, but of course i'm behind due to lack of cable. Whoa, Cersei's speech to Catelyn about her firstborn son of Robert...that...totally goes against her story in the book. Shocked am i! And sweet, earnest, Jon saying farewell to Bran - i'm reminded of how bitchy i thought Cat was early in the first book because of her hatred of the bastard child. He never did anything to hurt her except exist, poor kid.

As a side note: i'm 1/2 way through the third book and good heavens how Dany develops! Absolutely amazing.


Theodosia - May 10, 2011 3:34:38 am PDT #3475 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

This Jaime shows the bitter deadness inside so well. It bodes well for future character development if they follow the books, I've got to say.

One telling detail from later on that I don't think is spoilery -- it turns out he never names his horses and tries not to learn them if they come already named. Because they die so quickly and horribly in battle.


sumi - May 10, 2011 5:52:53 am PDT #3476 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

I totally think that Cersei was lying to Catelyn to fool her (Catelyn) into thinking she had normal human emotions.