You know, my big sister could really beat the crap out of her. I mean, really really.

Dawn ,'Storyteller'


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erin_obscure - Apr 26, 2011 12:27:21 pm PDT #3377 of 7329
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Bonny- there's not another wolf killing scene in the book so far (and i'm on #4). There is, however, plenty of gore and dismemberment to come. The entire series is, after all, about power play and feudal war.

Lady's death is brutal, but also a pivotal scene for many reasons: it removes a huge symbol of Sansa's protection, rendering her more helpless to being used by the Lannisters; becomes a frequent callback for Arya in ways that would be spoilerish to discuss; and gives Ned a clearcut, obvious reason to loathe Cersei's manipulations. Plus it shows the reader/viewer early on just how loathesome she is.

All this said with the caveat that i haven't seen the show yet, only read the books.

I'm rather appalled to hear that Dany's wedding night is made into a rape scene. In the books she is clearly terrified, but willingly submits as her duty. It takes months of submission before she comes to love him and participate equally. Making that into a rape....well, it's going to sorely undermind her emotional development with Drago that leads her to take later, pivotal actions. Hrm.

eta: i'm actually on the third book, not the fourth


§ ita § - Apr 26, 2011 12:46:23 pm PDT #3378 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We need to make sure we're all careful about what we discuss from book knowledge here. Dany's soul-crushing love is news to me, for instance.


erin_obscure - Apr 26, 2011 12:48:40 pm PDT #3379 of 7329
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

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sumi - Apr 27, 2011 8:55:00 am PDT #3380 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Torchwood teaser


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 27, 2011 10:21:31 am PDT #3381 of 7329
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Man throws cousin out of window over a GOT dispute:

At least now he'll get to enjoy the full-immersion Oz experience.


erikaj - Apr 27, 2011 1:00:17 pm PDT #3382 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

I shouldn't laugh, but you know I did.


beekaytee - Apr 27, 2011 4:06:10 pm PDT #3383 of 7329
Compassionately intolerant

Bonny- there's not another wolf killing scene in the book so far (and i'm on #4). There is, however, plenty of gore and dismemberment to come. The entire series is, after all, about power play and feudal war.

Thanks erin.

I'm generally okay with human on human brutality but innocent animals used as pawns just does me right in. I'm mean, really bothers me.

Still not sure I'm going to be able to enjoy the grim. But, good to know it's unlikely to happen like that again.


le nubian - Apr 27, 2011 4:13:22 pm PDT #3384 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

at least I could prepare myself for the wolf. they telegraphed that several minutes ahead of time. But the man throwing the kid out the "window" in the pilot episode was really terrible. I wasn't at all prepared for that.


§ ita § - Apr 27, 2011 4:23:14 pm PDT #3385 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I get that people are sensitive to animal brutality, but given the show warmed up by tossing a kid out a window, raping Dany, and murdering nameless barbarians...grim city.


Juliebird - Apr 27, 2011 4:42:35 pm PDT #3386 of 7329
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Honestly: poor puppy, but they ran down and murdered the butcher's son. I can understand the one in a polar bear way for getting their pound of flesh any which way, but the other, the murder of the boy, was senseless, he wasn't even officially accused of a crime. He was the victim. So, I'm sorry, but, f*** the dog: they killed the boy. We just didn't see it. Our heartstrings weren't pulled to where the red fern grows for him. At least the dog got a quick compassionate death. So, sorry, more disturbed by the death of Arya's friend than the direwolf.

Sorry sorry sorry: dead puppy not as important to me as dead boy.

And I'm certain that little miss princess will react by blaming her little sister for her wolf's demise and not Jothry. She's that shallow and twisted and self-preserving. I would love to be wrong (because she really is one-note right now).