at least I could prepare myself for the wolf. they telegraphed that several minutes ahead of time. But the man throwing the kid out the "window" in the pilot episode was really terrible. I wasn't at all prepared for that.
Wash: I mean, I'm the one she swore to love, honor and obey. Mal: Listen... She swore to obey? Wash: Well, no, not...
'War Stories'
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le nubian - Apr 27, 2011 4:13:22 pm PDT #3384 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
§ ita § - Apr 27, 2011 4:23:14 pm PDT #3385 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yeah, I get that people are sensitive to animal brutality, but given the show warmed up by tossing a kid out a window, raping Dany, and murdering nameless barbarians...grim city.
Juliebird - Apr 27, 2011 4:42:35 pm PDT #3386 of 7329
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Honestly: poor puppy, but they ran down and murdered the butcher's son. I can understand the one in a polar bear way for getting their pound of flesh any which way, but the other, the murder of the boy, was senseless, he wasn't even officially accused of a crime. He was the victim. So, I'm sorry, but, f*** the dog: they killed the boy. We just didn't see it. Our heartstrings weren't pulled to where the red fern grows for him. At least the dog got a quick compassionate death. So, sorry, more disturbed by the death of Arya's friend than the direwolf.
Sorry sorry sorry: dead puppy not as important to me as dead boy.
And I'm certain that little miss princess will react by blaming her little sister for her wolf's demise and not Jothry. She's that shallow and twisted and self-preserving. I would love to be wrong (because she really is one-note right now).
Amy - Apr 27, 2011 5:02:19 pm PDT #3387 of 7329
Because books.
I'm a little inured to human on human violence until children are involved. Animal cruelty horrifies when it's real, but in fiction or on film? It's horrible, but usually there for a reason, like proving how horrible a particular human is.
sumi - Apr 27, 2011 8:10:06 pm PDT #3388 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!
If the Hound had a different master - would he be a different person?
i.e., if he was one of Ned Stark's men - would he have gratuitously run down Mycah the Butcher's Boy?
erin_obscure - Apr 27, 2011 8:48:48 pm PDT #3389 of 7329
Occasionally I’m callous and strange
No, because Ned Stark would never kill a child without cause or allow his men to do so. He's principled. Too principled and moral to survive in a world where Lannisters come out on top.
Jon B. - Apr 28, 2011 4:21:54 am PDT #3390 of 7329
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
but the other, the murder of the boy, was senseless, he wasn't even officially accused of a crime.
Sure he was. The bratty prince said that Butcher!Boy and Arya had beaten him unprovoked.
sumi - Apr 28, 2011 6:45:54 am PDT #3391 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!
Brief interview with GRRM. My favorite part:
[Amy Poehler and Seth Meyers come over to tell Martin and his wife what huge fans they are of the show.]
Poehler: I like the blondie!
Martin: She’s straight out of drama school.
Poehler: You can tell. I think she left all her shirts and bras at drama school.
sumi - Apr 28, 2011 7:52:22 am PDT #3392 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!
Two of the Westeros.org mods are writing essays on Westeros for Tor.com.
On the growth of magic in ASOIAF.
History in ASOIAF.
-t - Apr 28, 2011 2:50:49 pm PDT #3393 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
That History essay is interesting. I hadn't noticed that about the timescale.