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sumi - Jun 14, 2010 5:42:07 am PDT #2775 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Game of Thrones teaser


Jessica - Jun 14, 2010 6:59:21 am PDT #2776 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Sumi, I was just coming in to post that! (I'm not normally subbed to this thread because I don't get HBO, but I might have to subscribe for that. Winter is coming!)


sumi - Jun 14, 2010 7:06:27 am PDT #2777 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Save up for Spring 2011!

I can't wait for more promos.


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2010 12:12:15 pm PDT #2778 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm wondering--is True Blood good? I mean, apart from entertaining, is it quality storytelling and narratively innovative?


Morgana - Jun 14, 2010 5:25:13 pm PDT #2779 of 7329
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I'm wondering--is True Blood good? I mean, apart from entertaining, is it quality storytelling and narratively innovative?

I've only been able to see one episode. It heavily featured grown adults dressed in togas with wreaths on their heads, dancing around outside apparently following the orders of a woman who was some sort of supernatural entity. They all appeared to be be drugged, or at least under her control. There was a large section where the women, no lie, passed around a large ostrich egg smeared with blood and took turns licking it. The woman who seemed to be the heroine was kind of painful to watch. The whole thing seemed to be watch-from-the-hallway embarrassing. There were a few scenes with vampires playing politics, but they were too few and far between.


le nubian - Jun 14, 2010 6:04:05 pm PDT #2780 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

it depends on your definition of "good."

When I started watching the show (with the pilot), I was like: "what the fuck am I watching?" I was curious enough to see it through and all in all, I'm glad I did. I find the series to be a bit uneven, but the parts that entertain really do entertain.

The series has a lot of skin, but not as much fighting as I had hoped.

The show definitely gives a sense of place more than most shows on tv and the acting is pretty good generally - though the accents are all over the place.


kat perez - Jun 14, 2010 6:27:48 pm PDT #2781 of 7329
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Well, I'll concede that TB is not Masterpiece Theater, that the supposed main characters, Sookie and Bill, are mild to moderately annoying much of the time, and that the MaryAnne story line was not all that. Nonetheless, I would put True Blood firmly in my quality teevee column. They have some of the best supporting characters going. Jessica and Hoyt, Eric and Pam and their whole Fangtasia Empire of Evil (yes, I'm including Mr. Chow!), all the Merlotte's crew - Sam and Arlene and even Tara (though she sometimes grates) and of course the magnificent Lafayette. I need a special sentence just for the brothers Bellefluer, Terry and Andy, because they are so beautifully damaged. The show did one of the great reclamation projects of the 21st century in taking Jason Stackhouse from a cartoon of a porn star in a cartoon porn movie to an actual human being whom I now love and want to protect at all costs from everything that would harm him, even himself.

They have had some interesting storylines. Thankfully, the MaryAnne business is not representative of what the show can do when it's good. Tara's not my favorite character, but the season one storyline about her mom and Miss Janette and the casting out of evil demons was quite well done and kind of heartbreaking. I really loved the early story of Sookie's gran and her fascination with Bill. I liked the Tam/Sara relationship S1 and miss it still. Even though I got tired of the nekkid Jason very quickly S1, they still managed to grab me with what happened to him and Amy and vampire Eddie. (Stephen Root, y'all!) And Eric's appearances were fun, if all too brief in S1. And there's always Lafayette. Yes, Lafayette is always fabulous. Bill and Sookie are kind of annoying, but the stuff with her uncle was touching. Much like S2, the main mystery around the Bon Temps serial killer was probably the weakest story of the season.

In S2, I thought all the secondary plots were top notch. Jason and the Fellowship of the Sun? Awesome. Eric and the Dallas vamps and Godric? Awesome. Bill and Lorena? Well, maybe not awesome, but very good. Hoyt and Jessica's tragic romance? Oh my stars, awesome! Terry and Arlene and her teacup humans? Yes, I believe they were awesome. I love Terry and his special lady. The tragic fall and fall of Andy Bellefluer? Awesome. Pam, Eric and Lafayette and the wages of sin, or V, or something like that? Do I even need to say it was awesome? I mean, I guess some of the secondary plots were clunkers. Anything with the Queen, I didn't enjoy and the Evan Rachel Wood creature is mystifying. I don't get the appeal. I didn't care all that much about Eggs and Tara which is making her a little bit tough to take just at the start of this season. Sam and Daphne didn't thrill me, but that just might be because it was tainted with MaryAnne juice. But overall, I found S2 to be quite good. And I have high hopes for S3.

The show does really well with character development, maybe not as well with the big season long arcs. I don't know that I'd call it mindbendingly innovative, but I'd say it's a quality show.


Atropa - Jun 14, 2010 7:51:16 pm PDT #2782 of 7329
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

So my clever plan of us buying episodes of True Blood S3 from either the Playstation or XBox store? Not gonna work. Neither of them seem to be offering it. Am I hosed, and will just need to wait until the season is done and released?


Morgana - Jun 14, 2010 10:00:42 pm PDT #2783 of 7329
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Thankfully, the MaryAnne business is not representative of what the show can do when it's good.

I think that's what I was watching in the lone episode I saw... at least, I believe that's what they were calling the woman who was planning to be married after the sacrifice. Most of it seemed so muddled that I just kept wondering where all the wonderfulness was that everyone else kept raving about. It's entirely possible that it's just the type of show that you can't drop into without having seen the backstory leading into current events. I was interested in Sam, the bartender with the appparently fucked-up childhood who's now determined to track down the missing pieces of his past, and who was willing to risk his own life for everyone else in the community because he clearly considered them all a part of his extended family. And by -- I think they called him Eggs? -- the man who was so distraught when he came back to himself and found blood on his hands but had no recollection of how it got there.


Strix - Jun 15, 2010 3:25:50 am PDT #2784 of 7329
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Jilli, I think so. I'm in the same boat -- was hoping they'd do a season pass for iTunes, and no dice.