'A Hole in the World'
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Unless Joss meant, who wants to know so badly that they'll skip the journey there, or the context, or the like.
That's exactly what he meant when he said "People who turn to the last page of a book". He meant "skip to the end", not "read the last page after reading all the other pages before it."
I'm with Joss. Of course, we all know that i'm a spoiler nazi. For me, it ruins the story if I know what happened. I remember when I was spoiled for "Becoming", I knew Angel was going to turn human, but I was just waiting for it to happen, and then I enjoyed the show. Maybe it's just the way I process information. Ginger likes the journey, even when she knows the ending. If I know the ending, I just want to get there as quick as possible. If I don't know the ending, I can enjoy the ride.
I'm just the opposite (sometimes, I actually don't spoil much for anything, any more). If I know the ending, I can enjoy the ride.
Agreed, there's a difference between reading the whole book in order and reading the last page first. I guess the sentence just leaped at me out of context because much of the appeal of arc-y shows like Buffy and Angel is, what happens next?
I think there's a danger of depending so much on the HSQ that the viewing experience won't hold up to repetition.
I've found that if I'm REALLY into a show, I want to remain unspoiled, at least for season finales. But being spoiled for things I'm only lukewarm about seems to increase my viewing pleasure. And it definitely helps if I know about something I won't like ahead of time—the spoiler gives me time to process and accept.
For me, it ruins the story if I know what happened.
Hee. I like this out of context.
I think there's a danger of depending so much on the HSQ that the viewing experience won't hold up to repetition.
I've found that to be the case, too.
I think there's a danger of depending so much on the HSQ that the viewing experience won't hold up to repetition.
I think depending on HSQ is lazy writing, and that if an ep can't hold up to spoilage/repeat viewings, it wasn't that good to begin with. t /judgmental bitca
I think depending on HSQ is lazy writing, and that if an ep can't hold up to spoilage/repeat viewings, it wasn't that good to begin with.
There are a number of shows that I started watching after their first run, or after they had been on for a few seasons. To someone who has already watched Buffy s4, the HSQ of "Becoming" - well, it's still powerful. The story, as you say, does not wholy depend on the ignorance of the outcome for the viewer. That said, there are a number of enchantingly brilliant works that I love that I choose to re-read or re-watch often. When I do so, particularly in the company of someone who has not experienced one before, I am excited for them because it is their first time. I get nostalgic for the first time - no matter how much I love the rerun, I can't go back and have that first time again. And unfortunately, spoilers as well as having watched later seasons before the early ones diminishes the effect of that first time experience for me. While I can still enjoy the work I'm spoiled for, I find I often prefer to maintain naivete so that I can have that rapturous first time.
Life on Mars: That was pretty fucked up.