Jayne: There's times I think you don't take me seriously. I think that ought to change. Mal: Do you think it's likely to?

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Cass - Mar 30, 2007 10:25:06 pm PDT #9185 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I am weak.

But I am weak by bringing the laptop and the next SPN disk to bed. So hopefully I will just fall asleep mid-ep and this won't all end in tears tonight. Because John is back (just finished Dead Man's Blood) and it's making me all thinky just watching it now with the earlier conversation here and ... it's late.

But I honestly believe he did his very best. And he didn't always do the right thing. But he did his best and he wanted to save what was left of his family from their demons. Even though the demons end up getting him and bits and pieces so far of his sons.

I mean I know my parents did their best most of the time. And sometimes the metaphorical demons got me. Sometimes specific things they did even lead to me being hurt. But they really do love me and wanted more than anything to protect me and for me to be happy. I see John in this.

I wonder if some of this has to do with how we see our own families. Because I am an only child and a middle child (whee, remarriage) but when I map, I map only child. So, while I see the brothers and their devotion and their connection, I can't quite internalize it.

This show makes me thinky.


Fiona - Mar 30, 2007 11:16:18 pm PDT #9186 of 10001

New Doctor Who tonight! Bounce bounce bounce.

Anyone else think tonight's villains look like Vogons ?

ETA: Speaking of which, the official website has an episode list for the new series. The ep entitled 42 intrigues me, especially after the Arthur Dent reference in "Christmas Invasion". Or am I just being a big fangirl and reading too much into this?


Juliebird - Mar 31, 2007 2:50:38 am PDT #9187 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

New Doctor Who tonight!

*weeps*


Ailleann - Mar 31, 2007 4:27:43 am PDT #9188 of 10001
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I do find it interesting that Sam is still trying to stay in the middle class ("normal" is "middle class", at least in tv and film), while Dean is comfortably working class and has no apparent interest in moving.

I hadn't thought about this coding before, but I think you're right. Beyond the demon part, Sam maps onto the "I come from a working class family, but aspire to something more, and the family unit suffers because I leave." Yeah, cause I needed something else to hook me into this show, damnit.

Mmm, bar, beer, Dean. This could be my new happy place.

Last time I went out to a bar, I had such a hard time not picturing Dean there, macking on the ladies. But, in retrospect, it wasn't really That Kind Of Bar.

So, while I see the brothers and their devotion and their connection, I can't quite internalize it.

Cass is me. I have a sister, but she's nine years older. Not so much with the bonding. Also, my dad's crap, which I think lets me cut John a lot of slack... he was working against an almost unimaginable situation, and he made an effort. That alone is better than a lot of dads do.

I'm sad I went to bed early, cause I missed Hell House! Such a funny episode, and an excellent way to get out of the Home->Faith Mini Arc of Ultimate Suffering. Despite the demons and the staring death in the face and the uncertainty, they're still brothers who have fun with each other. And who missed each other, though they'd be the last to admit it. (Ok, Sam would. Dean's a big ridiculous pile of brother-love.) Also, nice work on the watchable one-offs. Proof that it's ok for Other People to exist in this universe.


Zenkitty - Mar 31, 2007 4:33:17 am PDT #9189 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

BSG is over for the season, right?


Ailleann - Mar 31, 2007 4:34:25 am PDT #9190 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Season, and year. New episodes aren't until 2008.


Beverly - Mar 31, 2007 4:38:38 am PDT #9191 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Cass, only child here, too, so I'm always on the outside of that sibling relationship. I observed it intimately in my own sons, and I see so many parallels--the fierce protectiveness of the elder, the take-it-for-granted attitude of the younger, an estrangement that went for some years and was too painful on both sides to heal without some painful further deconstruction and rebuilding, an affectionate exchange of epithets that was as comforting in its familiarity and habit as it was in its nondemanding (no chick flick moments!) vulgarity.

So the relationship I see onscreen is fascinating to me on several levels--it illuminates something I never had and never will, maps onto people I love and makes me nod in recognition, and sometimes catch my breath in realization of something I hadn't seen because my view was too close, or from the wrong angle. And also, just because the Winchesters are written interestingly and played beautifully by completely pretty and watchable men. Who are not related to me in any way.

I'm also a little sad we skipped Shadow, with the Dad-reveal and Dean's litttle breakdown, and Nightmare, when Sam's nightmares become visions--and junior priests!


Lee - Mar 31, 2007 4:56:34 am PDT #9192 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Bev, I'll W&P Nightmare and Shadow with you whenever you want.


Beverly - Mar 31, 2007 5:28:17 am PDT #9193 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'd like to catch them both before we tackle the final three, I think. You've got Scola-brating this weekend, right? You want to try for midweek?


Lee - Mar 31, 2007 5:35:06 am PDT #9194 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'd like to catch them both before we tackle the final three, I think. You've got Scola-brating this weekend, right? You want to try for midweek?

Tomorrow night would be possible, since I have to come home around 7:00, or any day except Tuesday.