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New Doctor Who tonight!
Bounce bounce bounce.
Anyone else think tonight's villains look like
Vogons
?
ETA: Speaking of which, the official website has an episode list for the new series. The ep entitled
42 intrigues me,
especially after
the Arthur Dent reference in "Christmas Invasion".
Or am I just being a big fangirl and reading too much into this?
I do find it interesting that Sam is still trying to stay in the middle class ("normal" is "middle class", at least in tv and film), while Dean is comfortably working class and has no apparent interest in moving.
I hadn't thought about this coding before, but I think you're right. Beyond the demon part, Sam maps onto the "I come from a working class family, but aspire to something more, and the family unit suffers because I leave." Yeah, cause I needed something else to hook me into this show, damnit.
Mmm, bar, beer, Dean. This could be my new happy place.
Last time I went out to a bar, I had such a hard time not picturing Dean there, macking on the ladies. But, in retrospect, it wasn't really That Kind Of Bar.
So, while I see the brothers and their devotion and their connection, I can't quite internalize it.
Cass is me. I have a sister, but she's nine years older. Not so much with the bonding. Also, my dad's crap, which I think lets me cut John a lot of slack... he was working against an almost unimaginable situation, and he made an effort. That alone is better than a lot of dads do.
I'm sad I went to bed early, cause I missed Hell House! Such a funny episode, and an excellent way to get out of the Home->Faith Mini Arc of Ultimate Suffering. Despite the demons and the staring death in the face and the uncertainty, they're still brothers who have fun with each other. And who missed each other, though they'd be the last to admit it. (Ok, Sam would. Dean's a big ridiculous pile of brother-love.) Also, nice work on the watchable one-offs. Proof that it's ok for Other People to exist in this universe.
BSG is over for the season, right?
Season, and year. New episodes aren't until 2008.
Cass, only child here, too, so I'm always on the outside of that sibling relationship. I observed it intimately in my own sons, and I see so many parallels--the fierce protectiveness of the elder, the take-it-for-granted attitude of the younger, an estrangement that went for some years and was too painful on both sides to heal without some painful further deconstruction and rebuilding, an affectionate exchange of epithets that was as comforting in its familiarity and habit as it was in its nondemanding (no chick flick moments!) vulgarity.
So the relationship I see onscreen is fascinating to me on several levels--it illuminates something I never had and never will, maps onto people I love and makes me nod in recognition, and sometimes catch my breath in realization of something I hadn't seen because my view was too close, or from the wrong angle. And also, just because the Winchesters are written interestingly and played beautifully by completely pretty and watchable men. Who are not related to me in any way.
I'm also a little sad we skipped Shadow, with the Dad-reveal and Dean's litttle breakdown, and Nightmare, when Sam's nightmares become visions--and junior priests!
Bev, I'll W&P Nightmare and Shadow with you whenever you want.
I'd like to catch them both before we tackle the final three, I think. You've got Scola-brating this weekend, right? You want to try for midweek?
I'd like to catch them both before we tackle the final three, I think. You've got Scola-brating this weekend, right? You want to try for midweek?
Tomorrow night would be possible, since I have to come home around 7:00, or any day except Tuesday.
Could we do it around 8:00 your time? Starting at midnight or after makes the next morning difficult, but I can do later if that's better for you.
Nightmare first? Maybe Shadow after? Or later in the week, either way.