Well, I've got the lights off and a half-asleep baby in my arms.
Makes it hard. Maybe in 15, if the spouse is willing and the kidlet's dropped off?
Say! look at you! You look just like me! We're very pretty.
Buffybot ,'Dirty Girls'
Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
P.M. Marc - Mar 30, 2007 6:45:03 pm PDT #9135 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Lee - Mar 30, 2007 6:45:54 pm PDT #9136 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
That works--- Cass is grabbing some food.
DebetEsse - Mar 30, 2007 6:59:28 pm PDT #9137 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Blue collar things, he's able to fake. White collar, not as easily. There are, of course, exceptions to that, but it holds well enough as a general rule. (See: Supernatural and class-coding, and that whole essay I want to write some day on Sam, Dean, and moving between classes.)
Ooooh. Interesting.
Consuela - Mar 30, 2007 7:17:13 pm PDT #9138 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Yeah, Plei, you need to write that essay on class. Mely's had a few entries about it, and I have sort of thought about it (although more in the context of the social geography of the show), but someone really needs to do a dense evaluation of what the show is saying.
I do find it interesting that Sam is still trying to stay in the middle class ("normal" is "middle class", at least in tv and film), while Dean is comfortably working class and has no apparent interest in moving.
Lee - Mar 30, 2007 7:24:38 pm PDT #9139 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Plei? Should we keep waiting?
P.M. Marc - Mar 30, 2007 7:34:54 pm PDT #9140 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Yeah, Plei, you need to write that essay on class. Mely's had a few entries about it, and I have sort of thought about it (although more in the context of the social geography of the show), but someone really needs to do a dense evaluation of what the show is saying.
I do. Which, oh hardship, will require some rewatching. I was recently reading an essay, written by a lesbian from a working class family who got out, got the education that her family (her mother in particular) hadn't, in large part due to sacrifices in her mother's part. It was painful to read, in many ways, because as much as they loved each other, the differences in tastes, behaviors, and expectations that came with the daughter's move into the middle class world strained their relationship and communication in ways that I recognize (from my life, and my family's life), and in ways that I see in some of the interaction between Sam and Dean.
And it's something that I see Sam and Dean as both being very conscious of, even if they don't articulate it.
What interests me most is that it's not presented in terms of one value set/level of education/class being better or worse, but rather as what it is, which is just another one of those things that's a tension within families.
Beverly - Mar 30, 2007 7:35:43 pm PDT #9141 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
YOu guys got room for one more? Let me move to the laptop.
P.M. Marc - Mar 30, 2007 7:36:06 pm PDT #9142 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Plei? Should we keep waiting?
Go ahead and watch without me. Paul's still in the other room, my eyes are still a little itchy, so I'm gonna bow out of this one.
Lee - Mar 30, 2007 7:36:51 pm PDT #9143 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Of course, Bev.
eta: okay, Plei.
Bev, let us know when you are ready
Cass - Mar 30, 2007 7:40:25 pm PDT #9144 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
W&P
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