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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jon B. - Mar 18, 2007 4:16:41 pm PDT #8420 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

So I assume this was TDF pilot?


Zenkitty - Mar 18, 2007 4:18:26 pm PDT #8421 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

It was the TDF pilot, though it was originally 2 hours long, and that shows. It's very different in feel to the rest of the series.


Jon B. - Mar 18, 2007 4:20:54 pm PDT #8422 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Oh yeah -- the difference in feel, as well as all the exposition, is why I assumed it was the pilot. But two hours of that?! I'm having trouble imagining how they stretched it out that long.


Zenkitty - Mar 18, 2007 4:23:46 pm PDT #8423 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Well, for one thing, they cut out all the Bob parts, because in the original pilot, Bob was just lights in a skull. They hadn't decided yet that that was a bad idea and cast Terry Mann.

Apparently in the original original pilot, Bob was the one keeping Morgan locked in the circle in the basement. Morgan started talking to him about sex and he got all distracted, and that's how Morgan got away. Heh. Sorry they had to lose that part!


sumi - Mar 18, 2007 5:04:33 pm PDT #8424 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Um, did the promo say that they were ALL Cylons? I'm guessing everyone who is hearing that music?

And Tigh can do FREAKED OUT looks the best.


JenP - Mar 18, 2007 5:13:47 pm PDT #8425 of 10001

Is that what he said? I was coming here to confirm whether I'd heard that right. So the people who heard the music were Tigh, Anders, and Tori - is that right? Not sure I'm buying the we're all Cylons thing. Unless, hey, maybe the 12 models thing is just bullshit, and there are hundreds of models! That'd be cool.

Interesting ep. Kinda thought Adama the elder was being an ass (which is what they were going for, from what I could tell), and I totally felt for Lee. Which is just weird. Eyes rolled forever at Dualla's flounce-out. Helo and the "There's a storm a-brewin'" was kind of cheesy, and I kind of loved it, too.

And the cancer is back. Eeeeenterestink.

Also, Anders! Yay.


Kalshane - Mar 18, 2007 6:09:34 pm PDT #8426 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Yeah, TDF pilot was originally two hours, and I think it showed in the cracktastic nature of the editing in what we actually saw. They condensed a book into a two hour TV movie, and then condensed the two hour TV movie into a one hour episode and we pretty much got left with a mess.

So all I've got to say about this episode is: Yay, Mister! and it was nice seeing Harry actually looking like a wizard (and the runic circle effect for his shield bracelet was pretty cool.) Also loved the bit with the Blue Beetle in the shop.

The TV version of Ancient Mai continues to seem pointless and annoying to me.


Juliebird - Mar 18, 2007 6:26:15 pm PDT #8427 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

until this ep shows it's relevance within the series, I'm going to pretend that this Storm Front was an easter egg.


sumi - Mar 18, 2007 6:40:29 pm PDT #8428 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I liked seeing Mister. And really, didn't it seem like they blew their entire special effects budget on this episode? It was nutty.

I'm wondering whether hearing the music has something to do with the resistance. But then you'd think that Roslin and the Chief would hear it too.


Kalshane - Mar 18, 2007 6:42:52 pm PDT #8429 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

until this ep shows it's relevance within the series, I'm going to pretend that this Storm Front was an easter egg

And a somewhat cracked one at that.

I think if they'd kept it at two hours, it would have been a lot more with the sense making. Also, I would have gladly sacrificed the 5 minutes of screentime we got from Ancient Mai for something actually relevant.

Hell, I think we may have been better served by 5 minutes of Mister cleaning himself.

I really hope all this Ancient Mai stuff actually amounts to something, because right now she's simply playing the boogeyman, something Morgan can already accomplish, and in a less annoying fashion.

ETA:

I liked seeing Mister. And really, didn't it seem like they blew their entire special effects budget on this episode? It was nutty.

Well, the two hour version of Storm Front was original shot as a TV movie, with the possibility of it becoming a series, so I'd assume its budget was separate.