Oh, okay. And then did Fury do it, or did it go back to Tim, after Firefly? Why does this feel so long ago?

I found the Socrata (sp?) Thrace actress by going to epguides and the actress is Dorothy Lyman which name made me go - huh? when I read it, for reasons that have NOTHING to do with acting or tv or Battlestar Galactica.

It strikes me that it would be violating a basic tenet of the creator-viewer relationship to build up a character like that with a capital-D Destiny -- it's like putting a loaded gun on the mantlepiece in the first season and then destroying the house in the third without the gun paying off in the plot. It makes the whole Destiny thing into a McGuffin which is just wrong.

Me, I'm going with the thought of Cylons standing with a big net on the planet's surface right where Kara is fated to land.

Not purely for shock value! To bring smonster back to the b.org!

Awww. I get traumatized and I need my people around me!

Sometimes LJ just ain't enough. Hold me?

Hold me?

tackles smonster

...

wait, was there supposed to be fandom this somewhere?

So in a way, I think it would be pretty cool for Starbuck, with all her painfully human characteristics and contradictions, to be a Cylon as well; it would prove that there really is no difference between the two.

In another sense, I kind of feel like we've already gotten this story with Sharon/Boomer/Athena -- and how love made her an actual velveteen rabbit, or at least indistinguishable from them.

Well, but Athena is a very different character from Starbuck. Love is what gave Athena her humanity -- a simple, "noble" emotion. It was easy to sympathize with her. I'd be down with seeing a Cylon (or hybrid) embody a very different kind of humanity, one full of pain and anger.

They knew! They knew that they would crush the fan base. They fed on the audacity of killing Starbuck like sharks in a feeding frenzy.... Ron admits that it was purely for shock value.

Ugh. That's just... ugh. Kill a loved (and despised) character to serve the plot, sure. But purely for shock value? It seems like a waste of a destiny.

I totally agree. That left such a bad taste in my mouth. I think it's total bullshit, but still, that just made me mad to read it. To treat the character (and the fans) so callously just never seems like a good idea to me, first off. But -- yeah, it's a total waste of all that buildup about her destiny and her whole relationship with Leoben and the Eye of Jupiter and all -- is that seriously all going to be for nothing? NOT ON.

Ooh, Heroes time!

Whee! Heroes!

He remembers the love. Awww.

I'd rather see Roslin a Cylon, than Starbuck. I could see Starbuck as a hybrid, though.

OK. French speaking people, what did Haitian dude say?