I've been out of the abbey two days, I've beaten a lawman senseless, I've fallen in with criminals. I watched the captain shoot the man I swore to protect. And I'm not even sure if I think he was wrong.

Book ,'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Deena - Aug 25, 2006 12:28:19 am PDT #771 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Greg and I watched the most recent ep of Eureka last night (I say last night because it's after 5 in the morning) and I thought I'd drop in here and see if I can't make hanging out in this thread a habit.

It's funny to read everyone else's responses, because the particular thing I handwaved is that Zoe is always somewhere important when things are happening.

When Eugenia and Jack are talking in the park, and she explains how Irvin used to talk to her about the universe, I didn't find that incongruent with her being with him at the end. I assumed he was using that as a metaphor, to explain to her how important she was to him, and that she didn't actually need a science lesson.

A show has to resonate emotionally for me to really like it. This one has been good at getting the laughs, and it's made me really happy to see it. I love the faces, and the way they all talk to one another, the interactions between the various characters, but when Jack kissed Eugenia, the look on his face was so perfect. Even afterwards, while they talked, there was a tenderness on his face.

I was primed by the kiss, but I seriously fell in love with the show during the old geek power walk. I know I'm a pushover, but I laughed and laughed, and there were tears in my eyes at the same time. I love that Thatcher was able to swim back up to reality and take on the problem, return to his Eugenia; that he brought in his "crew," that the solutions were so simple, but incomprehensible. I loved, loved, loved everyone's reaction when the machine stopped. old geek crew one, with his little dance, and the hugs, and the crazy--and then, "did someone cut the BLUE WIRE?" and the look on Henry's face. Awesome.

I assumed the death ray was built under the main street because it was Eureka and Eureka's safe. The outlying fields might be someone's farm, or belong to someone outside the government. If the MAD ray had to be somewhere, better for it to be within the city limits. I didn't think about it much, though. I just loved "Death RAY? It's a death ray?"

I didn't find it incongruent that Fargo was given an office in the basement. The previous episode, he'd done a favor for Stark, and Stark knew he owed Fargo, and vice versa. Stark told Fargo he'd done a great service with his research. It seemed perfectly reasonable to farm Fargo out somewhere with a storage closet as an office, selling him with the, for want of a better term, corporate speak, than to give him a real job or improve his working conditions in any tangible way since Fargo seems to screw up more than he does right.

I also don't find it surprising that the death ray was lost. It seemed to me that there have been hints that Eureka had been funded more easily in the past, especially Global Dynamics, and that if a scientist was considered one of the great minds, he could easily find a corner to potter about in and get paid for it. It looked to me as if the paper was z-fold paper fed with the traction holes, which would indicate some age, though it's not been 40 years since people stopped using it. Still, having tried to deal with government bureacracy myself, I can imagine things getting lost, misfiled, erased or otherwise folded, spindled or mutilated from yesterday, much less more than 40 years previously.

As for Fargo and turning on the machine; I'm an idiot. I would have done the same thing to see what it would do. I wouldn't assume that it would start things immediately. I would have assumed that turning the keys would allow me to start something, or, since it was in the back of a basement storage room, do nothing at all, but the thrill of the moment before the keys were turned, that possibility, would have been worth it.

So, haven't posted much about the show because, for whatever reason, actors, writers, humor, timing, I don't have a lot of judgement about whether or not it's really a good (meaning coherent and scientifically accurate and realistic) show. I love it for the crazy people who could all be Buffistas. Except maybe (continued...)


Deena - Aug 25, 2006 12:28:25 am PDT #772 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

( continues...) Beverly.

(edit) jeeze-o-pete, that was pretty long-winded of me.

eta2: Greg and I were just talking (He's been sleeping, I've been up with the monster boy), and I mentioned Eugenia in the park vs. Eugenia as part of the crew, and he reminded me that you don't get to be in Eureka unless you're a brilliant scientist or a member of the family, and since Arvin and Eugenia weren't married, she must have been a scientist or she wouldn't have been able to meet Arvin for the first time in that park.


Fay - Aug 25, 2006 4:23:11 am PDT #773 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

SurgeTV hopes to tap into the newfound audience of science fiction wrestling fans, by promoting cross-over programming, including Eureka's Colin Ferguson's guest appearance in the ECW ring, and Season 2 of Stan Lee's Who Wants To Be A Superhero to include ring matches between competitors. Saucier, racier stories will be aired after the midnight hour, and in a change for the popular channel, may include R-rated material.

Sweet weeping mother of God.

Surely they jest? Not that it has any shred of an impact upon my own viewing habits, because - Bangkok, baby. Still. Blimey. I wouldn't have thought that there'd be an enormous crossover of geeks and wrestling fans. But I've been wrong before.

...Damn it, I really want to see Eureka. This is like reading the thread back when Firefly was airing in the US and we couldn't get it in Blighty. Ah well.


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2006 4:36:16 am PDT #774 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I know I bitched about Chase's immortality on Blade. But having Krista turn her mother, and her mother go on a killing rampage? Pretty damned sweet.

However, I'm confused by this pureblood thing. It was really very creepy when they introduced the pureblood girl, having her carried in by that guy. Why is she so young-looking? Is she actually young? Arrested age only makes sense if she was turned at that age. I need a mechanism for reproduction. Surely it can't be as effortless as turning, but it seems without explanation to be reasonably easy to produce more, especially if you're immortal.

And, by immortal did they mean immune to the same things as the Daywalker?


Calli - Aug 25, 2006 4:59:48 am PDT #775 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Saucier, racier stories will be aired after the midnight hour, and in a change for the popular channel, may include R-rated material.

Sigh. In some ways it's a pity it's a hoax. This is probably the only way we'd get Torchwood over here in a timely manner.


Jessica - Aug 25, 2006 5:16:04 am PDT #776 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

October 6th at 8 pm

But, but....I'll be on a plane that night! Oooh, they're so evil.


Nutty - Aug 25, 2006 5:18:06 am PDT #777 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Wait, Jessica, are you saying you don't expect to get a screener 3 weeks in advance anyway?

How am I to get my spoilers, woman??


Jessica - Aug 25, 2006 5:22:16 am PDT #778 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Well it's not like it's a guarantee...

I'll just have to make sure DH is properly sucking up to the publicist over the next couple months.


Beverly - Aug 25, 2006 5:27:57 am PDT #779 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I love it for the crazy people who could all be Buffistas. Except maybe (continued...)

( continues...) Beverly.

Huhmm--whuzzit?

Oh. Right.


Vonnie K - Aug 25, 2006 5:57:03 am PDT #780 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

But, but....I'll be on a plane that night! Oooh, they're so evil.

Uhm... damn. I'm going to be in Florence that day. (Yes, do please feel sorry for me.) I THINK the hotel has DSL and I'm taking my laptop, but it would be the height of dorkdom to be holed up watching tv on the computer when I could be out doing the proper tourist stuff....