::bites back S2 dialogue bit::

I love them like Jilli loves MCR. Ah, Winchesters.

The way his voice breaks on, "This family is all we have. It's all I have.."

Oh, damn yes. It's just a knife to the gut, that.

I love them like Jilli loves MCR. Ah, Winchesters.

I will never stop being amused that you're using that as a yardstick to compare your levels of Flail! Oh, boys! Poor tortured boys! to.

I will never stop being amused that you're using that as a yardstick to compare your levels of Flail! Oh, boys! Poor tortured boys! to.

I flail for John, too! There is no age discrimination in my Winchester Flail!

I like John more than Angel.

It's four ack emma and I need to try the sleeping thing again. But I have to agree. JDM is a damn pretty man, but John--John breaks my heart into itty bitty pieces.

John's in bad shape, compared to the boys, but he's not anywhere near the demon so many people portray him as. Which is, of course, why it all hurts so much when they fight. And stuff.

John's in bad shape, compared to the boys, but he's not anywhere near the demon so many people portray him as. Which is, of course, why it all hurts so much when they fight. And stuff.

So much this. I do love John more than I love the boys, and I know it's not just due to the sheer beauty of JDM.

But it seems like the ... gnnng, throw-away isn't quite the right word, but it's close ... anyway, the throw-away walk-on characters who are playing "1st Victim" seem to be mostly brunettes.

Red Shirts?

but he's not anywhere near the demon so many people portray him as.

No. He's majorly obsessed with finding the thing that killed his wife, but he's also fiercely protective of the family he's got left. If he can do both at once, it satisfies both needs.

I got to thinking more about Sam's prayer issue last night and I have to say I now believe it's very possible that he's been praying all along. When I think these things through, I have to compare what's going on in the characters life/head to what I know of my life. It's just the way I work. I didn't find out until I was in my mid-20s that my father even believed in God, much less prayed. We never went to church, but it turns out that it didn't stop my father from praying. He told me once that when my brothers were younger he would go into their bedroom every night to pray over them. I think John could have very well done something like this himself and I think Sam, too, could have done it because it wasn't necessarily talked about. Not something to be kept secret, per se, but just one of tthose hings that it's understood you don't talk about.

Re: Prayer

I didn't have an issue with Sam saying he prays. It fits the character for me, and as for Dean not knowing, I can easily see it never being discussed. Praying doesn't always have to be on your knees, hands clasped together. A lot of times my own praying is taking a few minutes to stop and commune quietly with God. As someone up top said, that kind of prayer can easily be seen as being contemplative by those around you.

In Dresden Files news, I know Zenkitty and others were curious about who could see Bob. Robert Wolfe confirmed the other day that he's visible to everyone. (Which is why he went to hide in his skull when Murphy showed up last episode.) He's also incapable of touching anything, though I don't recall that being a question here.