Mal: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous. Simon: Yes, I'm very proud.

'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jessica - Aug 22, 2006 4:56:25 am PDT #586 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

IMO, "No, take the F-150!" was far surpassed by Jack and Nadia's "OMG this FORD HYBRID SUV is so QUIET! Great for SPYING!"


Jessica - Aug 22, 2006 5:00:33 am PDT #587 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

We have a friend who works in that area, and besides the clunky obvious ones, there are more subtle ones, like what is on the shelves in someone's house or posters on a character's wall or what a person is drinking. The brand is never mentioned, it's just... around.

Like last week's Stargate with the Red Stripe. Subtle until you noticed that they were turning the bottles around in every shot to make sure we didn't miss the logo.

I have to say, of everything I've seen recently, SoaP wins at product placement. Not only are products X, Y, and Z totally hip and awesome because cool people are using them in the movies, when used properly, they will also totally save you from being killed by snakes.


Scrappy - Aug 22, 2006 5:03:42 am PDT #588 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, if you notice the product placement, they are doing it wrong.


§ ita § - Aug 22, 2006 5:12:31 am PDT #589 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't mind noticing. I'd have noticed Red Stripe any way they did it--just like if they were drinking a can of Coke.

In that sense, it's a good way to reinforce existing brands, but if they're subtle, how will you know they're drinking that cool new beer you haven't heard of yet?

Thence comes art.

If every bottle faces the camera...not slick. If one does, and the others show enough of the branding, okay.

See, me and mine do name car makes and models. However, no one says "Oh, let's get in the BMW 325 today!" It's either the BMW or the 325, depending. It's like giving the full address with zipcode, when you're just going two blocks over.


Betsy HP - Aug 22, 2006 5:29:34 am PDT #590 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The really unslick was the way that for awhile Apple Powerbooks were in EVERY SINGLE SHOT, often with Post-Its desperately placed to obscure the light-up logo.

Maybe there was just no point int keeping it on the air - they had their syndication numbers, and it had to be getting expensive...

That's what I've heard. For syndication, having > 100 episodes isn't really an advantage.

Honestly, advertisers shouldn't be paying for me as a TiVo user. I don't watch their stuff, pure and simple. All I ever watch are movie previews, and even then I have to be controlling the remove and my husband snarls.


Betsy HP - Aug 22, 2006 5:30:15 am PDT #591 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Remote. Remote remote remote.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 22, 2006 5:31:18 am PDT #592 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Remote. Remote remote remote.

It loses all meaning!


§ ita § - Aug 22, 2006 5:31:21 am PDT #593 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

advertisers shouldn't be paying for me as a TiVo user

Problem is, the less they pay for you, the less of your TV you stand to get.

What sacrifices (or suggestions) are we TiVoheads willing to make to accomodate that?

Making peace with the onscreen bugs is totally not a way I'm willing to go.


Betsy HP - Aug 22, 2006 5:39:37 am PDT #594 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

What sacrifices (or suggestions) are we TiVoheads willing to make to accomodate that?

Per-show subscription fees. It's time.


Theodosia - Aug 22, 2006 5:41:56 am PDT #595 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Honestly, I think it's up to the advertisers to make ads that make me want to backup the FF and watch. I actually do do that for movie trailers that flash past. Or the Comcastic ads that have been running of late, or the cute Target ads with people dancing.