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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Thanks, sumi!
why am I just finding out now that Hotdog is Edward James Olmos' son?
I was kind of "Meh" on the Dresden Files, but I'm glad other folks are enjoying it. I kept getting caught up in what book!Harry would do that was different from what TV!Harry was actually doing.
There were even more changes from the books than I was aware of.
That said, the Harry/Murphy relationship is pretty much spot-on from the way it started off in the books, and the leads did a really good job.
In the books, Harry's on "probation" from the High Council due to killing his uncle.
Well, Justin isn't his uncle in the books, but rather his foster father, but yeah, Harry's on probation for "self-defensing him to death".
For the curious, the 7 Laws of Magic in the books, as determined by the White (High) Council, which I believe Robert Wolfe said will be maintained in the TV series are:
- Thou shalt not kill
- Thou shalt not bind another to your will
- Thou shalt not invade the thoughts of another
- Thou shalt not transform another
- Thou shalt not seek beyond the Outer Gates
- Thou shalt not reach beyond the borders of life.
- Thou shalt not swim against the currents of time.
All of these laws only pertain to the use of magic (so a wizard could shoot someone with a gun if he wanted. He'd just have to deal with the mortal authorities.) and only when applied against humans. So wizards can kill supernatural beasties or whatever with magic and not be penalized for it.
The penalty for breaking any of the laws is death, though, as was in Harry's case, exceptions may be made for matters of self-defense.
In the books isn't it the White Council not the High Council? Or am I misremembering or possibly confusing the White Court with the council?
Right. In the books it's the White Council, but the TV Producers were worried about issues with the Tolkien estate and changed it to High Council.
Thou shalt not swim against the currents of time.
So can you jump forward in time, so long as you don't come back?
(I've worked as a regulator for too long, haven't I?)
Either that, or you're a natural-born wizard.
Thanks for the backgrounding, Kalshane. I'm sure it's a tough job to convert a well-established book series/universe into a TV medium without making some serious changes. As a person who knows nothing about the original, I was impressed by how well the pilot sketched in a lot of background skillfully without sounding like As You Know, Harry, and left room for future explanation/exploration.
Note to self: if someone ever tosses you something called a Doom Box, it's probably a bad idea to catch it.
So can you jump forward in time, so long as you don't come back?
My guess would be that's okay. Time travel has only been mentioned in the books in passing, for the most part (There's been hints that a particular character may be capable of it). But going back in time is presented as being really, really--could unravel the fabric of the universe--bad.
Did anyone see the "meet a new Hero" thingie NBC was supposed to do at 8:30? I turned on the TV right at 8:30 but all I got was a particularly annoying Deal or No Deal.
LIES!
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