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Kalshane - Jan 22, 2007 2:38:09 pm PST #5595 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I was kind of "Meh" on the Dresden Files, but I'm glad other folks are enjoying it. I kept getting caught up in what book!Harry would do that was different from what TV!Harry was actually doing.

There were even more changes from the books than I was aware of.

That said, the Harry/Murphy relationship is pretty much spot-on from the way it started off in the books, and the leads did a really good job.

In the books, Harry's on "probation" from the High Council due to killing his uncle.

Well, Justin isn't his uncle in the books, but rather his foster father, but yeah, Harry's on probation for "self-defensing him to death".

For the curious, the 7 Laws of Magic in the books, as determined by the White (High) Council, which I believe Robert Wolfe said will be maintained in the TV series are:

  • Thou shalt not kill
  • Thou shalt not bind another to your will
  • Thou shalt not invade the thoughts of another
  • Thou shalt not transform another
  • Thou shalt not seek beyond the Outer Gates
  • Thou shalt not reach beyond the borders of life.
  • Thou shalt not swim against the currents of time.

All of these laws only pertain to the use of magic (so a wizard could shoot someone with a gun if he wanted. He'd just have to deal with the mortal authorities.) and only when applied against humans. So wizards can kill supernatural beasties or whatever with magic and not be penalized for it.

The penalty for breaking any of the laws is death, though, as was in Harry's case, exceptions may be made for matters of self-defense.

In the books isn't it the White Council not the High Council? Or am I misremembering or possibly confusing the White Court with the council?

Right. In the books it's the White Council, but the TV Producers were worried about issues with the Tolkien estate and changed it to High Council.

Katie M - Jan 22, 2007 2:47:52 pm PST #5596 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Thou shalt not swim against the currents of time.

So can you jump forward in time, so long as you don't come back?

(I've worked as a regulator for too long, haven't I?)

Theodosia - Jan 22, 2007 3:05:03 pm PST #5597 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Either that, or you're a natural-born wizard.

Thanks for the backgrounding, Kalshane. I'm sure it's a tough job to convert a well-established book series/universe into a TV medium without making some serious changes. As a person who knows nothing about the original, I was impressed by how well the pilot sketched in a lot of background skillfully without sounding like As You Know, Harry, and left room for future explanation/exploration.

Note to self: if someone ever tosses you something called a Doom Box, it's probably a bad idea to catch it.

Kalshane - Jan 22, 2007 3:32:08 pm PST #5598 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

So can you jump forward in time, so long as you don't come back?

My guess would be that's okay. Time travel has only been mentioned in the books in passing, for the most part (There's been hints that a particular character may be capable of it). But going back in time is presented as being really, really--could unravel the fabric of the universe--bad.

Jon B. - Jan 22, 2007 3:54:52 pm PST #5599 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Did anyone see the "meet a new Hero" thingie NBC was supposed to do at 8:30? I turned on the TV right at 8:30 but all I got was a particularly annoying Deal or No Deal.

Vortex - Jan 22, 2007 4:07:09 pm PST #5600 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

LIES!

Ailleann - Jan 22, 2007 4:07:28 pm PST #5601 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Whu... on the... on the sw... wth?

Ailleann - Jan 22, 2007 4:13:22 pm PST #5602 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

OK, the last name on Heroes guest stars almost made me spit my drink. (!!!)

quester - Jan 22, 2007 4:17:54 pm PST #5603 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I missed it Ailleann.

sarameg - Jan 22, 2007 4:22:20 pm PST #5604 of 10001

I caught the last 10-15 seconds by accident and got annoyed that my tv guide was off at first. I'd read the graphic thing online, so nothing I didn't know. But who was the guest star?

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