A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
it really feels like they knew exactly where they were going
It does. Not only does Dean's S2 characterization make sense based on it, but so does John's S1 (and earlier!). Didja see Nutty's fab post on her fic journal about John?
But at least HJ has joined our cult.
Yeah, although everyone who thought the women in S1 were just fine (despite being boring, agenda-less, and interchangeable), is going to be all validated. Even though so far as I can tell, HJ is not nearly as clued into gender issues as he appears to think he is.
I believe they are referring to MIT Professor, Media & Popular Culture Guru, Henry Jenkins
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Okay, reading that will have to go on my to-do list.
Thanks!
Yeah, although everyone who thought the women in S1 were just fine (despite being boring, agenda-less, and interchangeable), is going to be all validated.
Insert snark about masculine authority figures here.
Ahem.
Possibly, I'm just twitchy about the reaction certain members of the fanbase had to anyone daring even question the gender politics of the show in S1.
Ple, I share your twitch. Although, having had a bit of drinky at work jus now (bigwig retiring) it may be spelled twicth.
Jenkins is fine, for what he is. The trick is realizing that he's no wiser nor more informed than anybody else in fandom. (Which took me years, as I argued with some of his more crackpot theories when I should have just been calling him a crackpot.)
I was suspicious the moment he said that he sometimes hated Dean, partly because I am irrational on the subject of Dean, and partly because Dean maps more female (caretaker, peacemaker) than John and Sam Winchester.
Of course, in addition to what I wrote above, I will go on to say that not liking Dean doesn't mean I think you hate women, but not liking Dean
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thinking the female characterization in season one was a-okay? It makes me look at you funny.
Do you think that criticism of female characters in season 1 is why they tried to create a more butt-kicking female in Jo? (And FAILED. Ava is SO MUCH BETTER.)
But Jo's cool! She's a reflection of both Sam and Dean! And stabbity stabbing in No Exit! And while somewhat bratty and sheltered, she's got agency and learns from her mistakes.
