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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Nutty - Jan 12, 2007 6:21:58 am PST #5245 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Every word out of both their mouths bellows Texas, to me. It's like they both have peanut butter permanently welded to their soft palates.


Lee - Jan 12, 2007 6:32:38 am PST #5246 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

The one thing that bugged me a little last night, and more so on rewatch was Gordon trying to blow Sam up in the other room, but leaving Dean unharmed. Gordon is smart enough to know he would have to kill Dean if he killed Sammy (unless he wanted to be hunted down and killed, painfully), so why not just set Dean up as the second trip wire?


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2007 6:35:30 am PST #5247 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, that was definitely lacking in foresight from the guy who's looking to play the long con.


sumi - Jan 12, 2007 6:36:40 am PST #5248 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Plus, he has no compunction about killing people who aren't evil: i.e., the possessed girl who he was exorcising when the demon spilled something about that war.


Beverly - Jan 12, 2007 6:49:50 am PST #5249 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

But see, that plays back into Gordon seeking Dean's approval. I got a little frisson in there that maybe somewhere in the back of his mind Gordon was thinking if Sam's gone, Dean's got nobody--like me. I don't know if he thought that maybe, when Dean got over being upset about Sam's death they could bond, or something. I don't know. Gordon's elevator doesn't go all the way up, I'm afraid, but then neither does the family Winchester elevator.

I do think Gordon felt he made a connection with Dean in the earlier episode, felt like he'd found a kindred spirit. Sammy was in the way of that, Gordon didn't like Sam; without Sam Dean would be a less conscience-troubled hunter, like Gordon. They could be hunting buddies. Gordon would never admit to this, consciously, but I think it colored how avidly he went after Sam. And I also believe Gordon thought if Dean lost Sam it somehow made Gordon's killing his vamped sister more "right."


P.M. Marc - Jan 12, 2007 7:04:56 am PST #5250 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Gordon killing Dean, or setting it up so that the tripwire took Dean out, wouldn't have been consistant with what I've seen as Gordon's moral code: Dean, while a potential threat to Gordon, isn't a threat or potential threat to humanity.

He's made his peace with acceptable losses (see: possessed girl), but as of Hunted (and if we see Gordon again, this may change), killing Dean's a line he's unwilling to cross.


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2007 7:10:51 am PST #5251 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

killing Dean's a line he's unwilling to cross.

Then how does he plan to survive? Self defense is okay, I wager.

Is there netiquette about dragging bits of LJ discussions (especially with some but not all Buffista participants) over to a message board?

I am so totally confused about some shared opinion, and I'm looking for as many different explanations as possible.


brenda m - Jan 12, 2007 7:13:10 am PST #5252 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

If it's not a locked post, I don't see an issue.


Nutty - Jan 12, 2007 7:14:37 am PST #5253 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

so why not just set Dean up as the second trip wire?

Antagonists being this smart would make the show end after 3 episodes.

there netiquette about dragging bits of LJ discussions (especially with some but not all Buffista participants) over to a message board?

I don't see why not (unlocked posts, anyway). At least, link to it and ask that discussion happen here rather than there. Like metafandoming, right?


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2007 7:20:57 am PST #5254 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

link to it and ask that discussion happen here rather than there

It wasn't locked, but I don't feel comfortable dictating the location of discussion.

Well, here's the basic premise, which I'm sure to state badly...that there are a few racially insensitive components in Gordon's story, the last ep he was in and this one. The components of this episode were his stressing human racial purity, and him being taken down by an all-white group of cops--all this being all the more notable for him being one of the few black characters on the show.

Speaking of trip wires, this completely fails to set off any of mine. In fact, I'm having a hard time even seeing why they should be tripped for other people.