Zoe: First rule of battle, little one. Don't ever let 'em know where you are. Mal: Whoo-hoo! I'm right here! I'm right here! You want some of me? Yeah, you do! Come on! Come on! Aaah! Whoo-hoo! Zoe: Of course, there are other schools of thought...

'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 08, 2007 6:41:33 am PST #5044 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Note that Frobisher could also see the elder Fraser's posthumous appearances, so they weren't just a hallucination of Benton's.

My favorite thing about the magic snow was that none of it stuck to Fraser after that fall from an airplane in the finale. He was just standing undusted atop the snowbank when Ray K finally dug himself out of his impact crater.


P.M. Marc - Jan 08, 2007 6:49:49 am PST #5045 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Plus there is a fat streak of magic realism in the show, in general. Even if it weren't grandfathered in, it would still end up being vociferously argued in.

Yeah. Pretty much what they said. Various things that we'd count as fantasy are SOP reality in dS. Ghosts, spirits, magical snow, lip reading wolves...


esse - Jan 08, 2007 6:59:32 am PST #5046 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

...implausibly amusing secondary characters, a team of Mountie cadets re-building and manning a life-size working replica of the HMS Bounty, Russian nuclear subs, FRASER'S MOM BEING HIS GIRLFRIEND IN ANOTHER SHOW.

Seriously. BBC4 had a due South marathon the Saturday after Christmas, and I was watching "Call of the Wild" and flailing, and at the end, Fraser's mom is Ellen from Slings & Arrows. Boy was that disconcerting.


brenda m - Jan 08, 2007 7:00:33 am PST #5047 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

FRASER'S MOM BEING HIS GIRLFRIEND IN ANOTHER SHOW.

And played by his wife, to boot.


Vonnie K - Jan 08, 2007 7:02:22 am PST #5048 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Fraser's mom is Ellen from Slings & Arrows. Boy was that disconcerting.

Hahaha. I haven't watched past S2 of dS yet, but Ellen from S&A was played by Paul Gross's wife, Martha Burns. I can't decide if that casting is slightly ooky or weirdly charming. I'm leaning toward the latter.


esse - Jan 08, 2007 8:31:39 am PST #5049 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Yeah, that's new information to me. I just thought Canada was really small.

In other news, have ya'll seen this piece of awesomeness: [link] Fans doing a live-action fourth season of Star Trek, with absolutely stunning graphics (seriously! I was gap-jawed at how good they were!), fully re-created, life-size sets, and just general awesome all around. Of course, the acting leaves something to be desired, but then again, you have to give the fanboys credit.


Vortex - Jan 08, 2007 8:52:15 am PST #5050 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Of course, the acting leaves something to be desired,

so, true to the original series, then. Or at least Shatner.

What's with Lt. DeSalle? Is he the designated red shirt?


Dana - Jan 08, 2007 9:03:31 am PST #5051 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I believe, digging back in my memories of TOS, that DeSalle might have been a recurring character. Maybe the navigator before Chekov?


esse - Jan 08, 2007 9:25:34 am PST #5052 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Hm. It was said that (in this fan episode) that Chekov was promoted to head of security, so perhaps DeSalle is the navigator now.

I kept going between really, really impressed, and filled with fannish glee that someone had done this.


Dana - Jan 08, 2007 9:27:29 am PST #5053 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Of course there's a Trek wiki.

[link]

Lieutenant DeSalle served as the assistant chief engineer as well as navigator aboard the USS Enterprise and was fifth in the chain of command during Captain Kirk's original five year mission. He was of French descent and trained in many skills, including biology.