Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.

'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sumi - Dec 09, 2006 2:04:22 pm PST #4406 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I thought that scene with the paper shortage comment was a JE touch.

Who was the First Wave guy?

I just rewatched: did you guys notice that Kat called Hot Dog "baby" in the teaser? Also, in the credits the Sebastian Spence character is called "Narcho" when he used to be called "Whiplash". Of course that could be a name/call-sign thing.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2006 2:07:06 pm PST #4407 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sebastian Spence was the lead on First Wave.


sumi - Dec 09, 2006 2:31:12 pm PST #4408 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, okay. I only know him from SPN. And I do keep thinking that he's going to be more important than he has been - just because he's fairly recognizable. Perhaps that's just an aspect of the Vancouver Effect.


sumi - Dec 09, 2006 2:34:09 pm PST #4409 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, and on re-watch: when the first group of civilians come in, I could SWEAR I saw the kid who played Boxey among them.


JenP - Dec 09, 2006 6:05:00 pm PST #4410 of 10001

Did SG-1 watchers notice that Kat's drug runner dude was Fifth?


Vonnie K - Dec 09, 2006 6:38:19 pm PST #4411 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

OK, I love Jane and all, but that episode kind of blew. And I'm talking as one of few people who liked Kat in "Scar". I'm starting to hate these asspulled "character arcs" in which we learn in one episode (with little foreshadowing) that OMG! That character had all these hidden emotional pains and secrets festing inside and hey! why don't we use this nonsensical plot device to showcase their angst? Death optional! (Also see: Lee and his hooker girlfriend and WTF pregnant fiancee, and Chief with his out-of-nowhere suicidal impulse and violent streak.) The worst thing is, I vividly remember when this show used to develop relationship angst organically. Now, it just feels sloppy.

I'm also damned tired of the way they keep losing civilian ships to amp up character angst. It worked when Lee was forced to fire on Olympic Carrier. Here? The loss felt irritatingly gratuitous.

I rolled my eyes a lot when Adama put Kat's name in the CAG slot on the white board. Talk about shooting for unearned emotional payoff. Or maybe I'm just a heartless bitch.

The only thing I liked about this episode was the Cylon basestar scenes. Especially the Baltar/D'Anna/hybrid scene. I need to watch it again to see what the hell's going on there, but hopefully it's a seed for interesting future plot development. I find myself fascinated by the hybrid, even though she's such a blatant rip-off of the Agatha character from Minority Report (which, unlike many other Buffistas, I adored, Tom Cruise factor and all.)


sumi - Dec 09, 2006 7:17:47 pm PST #4412 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I don't understand why they went with Jupiter as the husband of Hera. I mean, if it's Hera why not Zeus? And if it's Jupiter why not Juno?


Juliebird - Dec 10, 2006 4:50:44 am PST #4413 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Talk about shooting for unearned emotional payoff. Or maybe I'm just a heartless bitch

I find myself fascinated by the hybrid, even though she's such a blatant rip-off of the Agatha character from Minority Report (which, unlike many other Buffistas, I adored, Tom Cruise factor and all.)

I right there with you, Vonnie, on both counts


Laura - Dec 10, 2006 6:18:24 am PST #4414 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

My favorite moment by far was the "paper shortage" hysterical laughing. It was pitch perfect.


Polter-Cow - Dec 10, 2006 3:48:44 pm PST #4415 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That it was, Laura.

I'm with Vonnie on this episode. I...don't even feel like posting about it. It just doesn't seem worth it. For frak's sake, Jane even tried to win me over by pushing my Identity Issues button, but it was clumsily done with Kat. And I abso-fucking-lutely disagree that she didn't put any lives but her own in danger by recklessly returning to the fore: she was putting the lives of everyone on that civilian ship in danger. They were her responsibility, and she was likely to vomit in her helmet and die at any time, leaving them stranded.