No. You're missing the point. The design of the thing is functional. The plan is not to shoot you. The plan is to get the girl. If there's no girl, then the plan, well, is like the room.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Dec 05, 2006 8:27:24 am PST #4241 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Nope, Scola. Of course, Nathan's always pretty sketchy, so it's hard to tell.


shrift - Dec 05, 2006 8:27:26 am PST #4242 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Dana is me re: Torchwood. Which should come as no surprise.


victor infante - Dec 05, 2006 8:28:52 am PST #4243 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Am I the only one who got Nathan-as-a-bad-guy vibes from the flashforward?

No, but then, I think that scene can be interpreted a number of ways.


Juliebird - Dec 05, 2006 8:31:30 am PST #4244 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

If Peter's about to go kablooey, Nathan might be the one who can prevent him from blowing up everyone else by getting him far, far away.

oooh, good one. This saves the city/world, but they both die as a result. Which could explain the grim expression on Nathan's face. He can't save his brother, and in one last grand acceptance of his powers, he'll also sacrifice himself to save others.


Vonnie K - Dec 05, 2006 8:34:29 am PST #4245 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

A fun interview with a couple of writers from Heroes from Comic Book Resources: [link] (Note that they talk about who the Big Casting Spoiler from Spoiler Light is supposed to be about 2/3 way down on the interview.)

But, if you look at the bulk of the names on the show… Isaac. Matt. Peter. Gabriel. Micah. You might see a connection – or you might see a connection that we didn’t see.

Heh. Did they deliberately pick all those names from The Bible? I doubt that the names have deeper meanings, but this will probably get people speculating all the same.


P.M. Marc - Dec 05, 2006 8:52:02 am PST #4246 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

He's shown signs of a psychic link with Nathan before, but no one else, besides mimicing their powers.

Didn't he show one with Simone's dad, right before he died?

(Hey! I bet it's up on rewind! I can watch.)

SPN on iTunes would mean my iPod is doomed. Doooooooooooomed.


victor infante - Dec 05, 2006 9:36:22 am PST #4247 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Didn't he show one with Simone's dad, right before he died?

Huh. You know, you're right! I suppose it's linked to his all around empathy.


DawnK - Dec 05, 2006 9:43:03 am PST #4248 of 10001
giraffe mode

Peter's also dreamed of Nathan's car crash and Simone's dad so I wonder if that's part of his own powers?

Jan. 22nd is too far away wahhhh!


sj - Dec 05, 2006 9:48:25 am PST #4249 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I think Peter is going to have to learn to control his powers in such a way that he only draws on someone else's power when he needs too.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 05, 2006 9:53:35 am PST #4250 of 10001
What is even happening?

But, if you look at the bulk of the names on the show… Isaac. Matt. Peter. Gabriel. Micah. You might see a connection – or you might see a connection that we didn’t see.
Hmmm.

Isaac is a favored/longed-for son, nearly sacrificed, the father of twins. Matthew and Peter are apostles. Gabriel is an angel. Micah is a prophet. One of the men named Nathan in the Bible is also a prophet (another is a son of King David, another is featured in accounts of the captivity, and there's a Nathanael in the NT Gospel of John, who is probably the apostle Bartholomew). Eden is also biblically significant. Simone is close to Simon and Simeon.

Of course, that leaves Jessica/Niki, Claire, and possibly DL out. I wonder if it has more to do with the meaning of the names.

eta...

I wonder what Mohinder and Chandra mean?