Well, if prophecy is unchangable, that means New York is getting nuked no matter what.
Yeah. He's my hero.
Mal ,'The Train Job'
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Kalshane - Nov 21, 2006 8:17:50 am PST #3904 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Polter-Cow - Nov 21, 2006 8:23:28 am PST #3905 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Also--the shot of Claire on those...oh, the wide shot with her in the auditorium looking behind her in panic with the looming shadow--did that happen? I thought Peter was with her when she ran.
It did look like we never got the actual shot that was in the painting but holy God, was it cool to see it almost happen. To see the painting come to life.
Well, if prophecy is unchangable, that means New York is getting nuked no matter what.
Given what we just saw, I think it's not as unchangable as all that. Because Peter kept the specific painting shot from happening. At least that one.
SailAweigh - Nov 21, 2006 8:35:33 am PST #3906 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Are we actually dealing with a prophecy here, though? Sure, Isaac painted some pictures of possible events, but just because he painted something that might be possible doesn't make it eventual. I think we're dealing with the realm of free will, here. This is an "anything you do can change the future" versus "nothing you do can change the future."
DCJensen - Nov 21, 2006 8:38:31 am PST #3907 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
if I suddenly developed THE ABILITY TO FLY, I feel safe in speculating that'd change things. Everything.
I can see where it interferes with what he wants out of life. Nathan wants to be a politician, not a superhero.
DCJensen - Nov 21, 2006 8:40:13 am PST #3908 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Malt-O-Meal:
I wonder how long Peter has a person's powers once he absorbs them?
Last night it seemed quite a bit later when he straightened out his leg when the police pulled up.
DCJensen - Nov 21, 2006 8:41:26 am PST #3909 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Cream of Wheat:
Also, I really wish Peter would get a haircut. The "little Nicky" cut is just creepy, sometimes.
§ ita § - Nov 21, 2006 8:45:26 am PST #3910 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I can totally see someone as singleminded as Nathan not giving a fuck about flying.
What a waste.
Prophecy, telling the future, predicting events that will turn out this way unless someone with knowledge of the prediction does something about it...it's a semantic game in my eyes.
I think a key which Nathan doesn't get is that the picture doesn't tell the whole story.
Tom Scola - Nov 21, 2006 8:46:42 am PST #3911 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
How can we recognize him in the paintings if he doesn't have a distinctive haircut?
Dana - Nov 21, 2006 8:54:34 am PST #3912 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
shrift! Check your e-mail, check your e-mail, and check your e-mail.
DCJensen - Nov 21, 2006 9:31:22 am PST #3913 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Let him have a distinctive haircut, just not "Little Nicky."
Nor Moe.