You always think harder is better. Maybe next time I patrol, I should carry bricks and use a stake made out of butter.

Buffy ,'The Killer In Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

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§ ita § - Nov 20, 2006 11:01:32 am PST #3821 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Other Supernatural watchers--please chime in.

Is the existence of Hell too much of an expansion of their universe for you to deal with hearing about it in such a casual and undetailed way?


Nicklas - Nov 20, 2006 11:01:44 am PST #3822 of 10001
"Either it's murder, or this library has a very strict overdue policy."

I agree with Dana on Torchwood, it felt a bit like something Neil Marshall would have done, although with more plotholes and a more rushed development. No aliens was a good thing, they're not perfect at this and would get involved with things that they just assume is their business. I just wished they would have save the strange village story and done a "Shadow over Innsmouth" episode -- but that might just be me.

Jack saving the day, not a problem. John Barrowman could do a special brushing his teeth-episode and I wouldn't complain. That his sidekicks still are a heap of useless human waste is another matter, it's growing old fast and it's beginning to irk me a bit too much.

But the Gwen/Owen subplot was pretty bad because all they've done before was show how they bickered. And that's not really enough yet to go into full snogging mode with them. Sure, I can see why based on how well the actors manage to get the characters to interact but not yet storywise. (Thankfully they avoided Gwen/Jack.)


Nutty - Nov 20, 2006 11:05:06 am PST #3823 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Damn, ita. Nobody else has an opinion, just us two.


P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2006 11:08:56 am PST #3824 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Is the existence of Hell too much of an expansion of their universe for you to deal with hearing about it in such a casual and undetailed way?

No, because it follows the way the season's been when it comes to reveals, so revealing it that way seems like the whole point. (See also: the expansion of the universe with the introduction of the Roadhouse.) Sam and Dean are learning that, yeah, they know a little about a lot, but it's a lot more little than they thought it was, and the dangerous cuts both ways.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2006 11:09:26 am PST #3825 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Then the only remaining option is a cage match. Or a squash court match.

Two opinions enter! One opinion leaves! Welcome to Buffistadome.

eta: Aw, dammit. Plei had to go be all thinky meat and ruin my line.


P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2006 11:09:32 am PST #3826 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Damn, ita. Nobody else has an opinion, just us two.

I had one!

It just took me a bit to actually type it.


sumi - Nov 20, 2006 11:09:38 am PST #3827 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Hey, I posted.

It didn't bother me.

They've dressed up as priests, they've done exorcisms, it seems to point to a certain type of belief.


Nutty - Nov 20, 2006 11:14:44 am PST #3828 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Partly, of course, I'm just irritated with any writer who would put a major reveal into the context where it may or may not be a lie. That's X-Files level of unnecessary obfuscation, and that way lies bitterness.


Polter-Cow - Nov 20, 2006 11:20:07 am PST #3829 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It didn't bother me either. Nutty is just nutty.


Zenkitty - Nov 20, 2006 12:14:34 pm PST #3830 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I don't watch Supernatural so my opinion is worthless, but anyway: probably the writers of the show didn't think twice about including hell in their supernatural universe, and probably most viewers don't either. I think that for many people, assuming the existence of the supernatural automatically assumes that heaven/hell exists. It's just taken as a given.