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Is the existence of Hell too much of an expansion of their universe for you to deal with hearing about it in such a casual and undetailed way?
No, because it follows the way the season's been when it comes to reveals, so revealing it that way seems like the whole point. (See also: the expansion of the universe with the introduction of the Roadhouse.) Sam and Dean are learning that, yeah, they know a little about a lot, but it's a lot more little than they thought it was, and the dangerous cuts both ways.
Then the only remaining option is a cage match. Or a squash court match.
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eta: Aw, dammit. Plei had to go be all thinky meat and ruin my line.
Damn, ita. Nobody else has an opinion, just us two.
I had one!
It just took me a bit to actually type it.
Hey, I posted.
It didn't bother me.
They've dressed up as priests, they've done exorcisms, it seems to point to a certain type of belief.
Partly, of course, I'm just irritated with any writer who would put a major reveal into the context where it may or may not be a lie. That's X-Files level of unnecessary obfuscation, and that way lies bitterness.
It didn't bother me either. Nutty is just nutty.
I don't watch Supernatural so my opinion is worthless, but anyway: probably the writers of the show didn't think twice about including hell in their supernatural universe, and probably most viewers don't either. I think that for many people, assuming the existence of the supernatural automatically assumes that heaven/hell exists. It's just taken as a given.
question is, if the Slayer is the creation of the Watchers back in the day, how did they make her have prophetic dreams? Did they build in a connection to TPTB?
While I'd at first assumed a sequential Joan-of-Arc type thing with the Watchers later attaching themselves, the revelation of the Shadow Men summoning that demonic cloudy monster to make the First Slayer makes me think it was instead TPTB that took advantage of an existing situation, much as they did later with Angel.
I don't watch SPN, but I think I'd expect any 'verse without an explicit explanation of meta-physical rules/powers-that-be to be dualist, by default. If there's evil, and an evil place, but there are good(ish) people who fight the evil, then there is good in the place where the story is set, so I'd expect there to be a good place, and that the good and evil powers were fighting over the world where the story took place.
So, if there was a hell (or hellish place), I'd assume there was an opposite nice place. I think I'd be more zen (than Nutty) about finding out about the hell.
Re- SPN- I thought Hell was actually added at the end of the first episode of this season, as if dad was going to take the place of dean he had to go somewhere. I don't really know if they need to posit the existence of heaven in SPN, as we have not seen any "good" supernatural things (the vampires who did not want to kill were at best neutral). There are some shadows of good people in the supernatural realm, but they have all been tied to evil in some way or another. It's possible that there is a "good" place, but I really don't see it as critical for the show.
If there is a good place (like heaven) in SPN, it certainly needs a really darn good reason for not showing up before now, as everything they have touched to this point has not had any sense that it existed.
