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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


tiggy - Oct 27, 2006 12:03:57 pm PDT #3181 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I don't understand the need to watch the UK version, personally. the first season of it and the US version is for all intents and purposes exactly the same. except, unbelievably, that Michael is more likeable than David.

i've tried to watch the UK version and it just doesn't do it for me. Gareth and David are too cringe-worthy for me. whereas Dwight and Michael are cringe-worthy, but also funny a lot of the time. especially Dwight. Gareth just gave me the creeps.


Hayden - Oct 27, 2006 12:49:34 pm PDT #3182 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

You and I are agreed about some of the differences in the US vs. UK Offices, but disagree about what it means. I think the UK version is a far nastier show because David Brent is perhaps a nicer (I know!), but more misguided person than Michael Scott. The US version make Scott fairly malevolant and unconcerned with his actions, which, in turn, makes it easier to see him as a monster. David Brent is as much a monster, but also more recognizably human and more consumed by his need to please, with all the cringeworthy humor associated with that.

I also think the arc of the UK version is also more satisfying as a whole, and the two shows diverge enormously after the 2nd US episode. None of this is to say that I think the US version is unworthy of attention; it just has a lower pain-to-pleasure ratio than the UK version, and I found the pain to be as instructive as the pleasures were cathartic in the original. UK: A+. US: A-.


Kalshane - Oct 27, 2006 1:17:05 pm PDT #3183 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I didn't get an EW vibe.

I got a total Bradley Cooper vibe.

Okay. Maybe that's where I got the "I've seen him before" thing. He was the unholy psychic lovechild of Frodo and Will Tippin.

last night's episode changed my moderate "like" for Supernatural into full blown LOVE. that REO Speedwagon scene totally had me dying.

You guys are so mean, going on and on about the parts of the episode where I couldn't hear anything. Argh. I really am going to have to "locate" a sound-intact copy of the episode, aren't I?


Jessica - Oct 27, 2006 1:28:28 pm PDT #3184 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Corwood is me on all points Office.


tiggy - Oct 27, 2006 2:29:24 pm PDT #3185 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

You guys are so mean, going on and on about the parts of the episode where I couldn't hear anything. Argh. I really am going to have to "locate" a sound-intact copy of the episode, aren't I?

you're welcome.


P.M. Marc - Oct 27, 2006 2:54:47 pm PDT #3186 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Okay. Maybe that's where I got the "I've seen him before" thing. He was the unholy psychic lovechild of Frodo and Will Tippin.

I wonder how long it would take me to find that in fic form...

SPN frustrates me, because I have Deep Thoughts on it that REFUSE to get past the Firewall of Flail.

Like, I keep trying to articulate the use of misdirection and creepification with the blonde and the bathrobe and Andy, and how I think we *were* supposed to initially be skeeved and creeped by it, and then to doubt that Andy was using his mind tricks for the seduction aspect of it, but then I get caught up in Dean's complete dorktastic love of the bong, and I just fall straight back into shallow.


tiggy - Oct 27, 2006 5:08:03 pm PDT #3187 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

no BSG watch and post tonight? huh.

they better be glad they didn't airlock Gaeta. Kara is nice and angsty, isn't she? i really liked the scene between she and Anders with her telling him to leave her alone before she did something she regretted.


Kathy A - Oct 27, 2006 5:28:44 pm PDT #3188 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I was yelling at the screen "That is SO WRONG!" during Baltar's (obvious) dream, when Laura went to kiss him. Then I giggled at Adama's telling Lee to keep on skipping rope. Then I was relieved when Kara got Felix's secret out and he still managed to keep his oh-so-precious dignity (and I was pissed with her when she passed sentence on him without one word about his cafeteria confession!).


Jessica - Oct 27, 2006 5:48:09 pm PDT #3189 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Gods, I love this ep. It's just so juicy.

Because, remember last season when the Pegasus showed up and the two crews were all shocked at how each other was acting because neither could comprehend what the other group had been through?

It's gonna be like that all fracking year. And it's gonna be between all of our people.

I can't wait. I really can't.


Hayden - Oct 27, 2006 8:42:43 pm PDT #3190 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I agree, although I'm back on the Starbuck-sucks train. The great Scottish punk band McLusky had an album called My Pain and Sadness is More Sad and Painful Than Yours, and I always think of that title when Starbuck starts using her own suffering as a trump card for her behavior. A little of that goes a long way.

To call back The Office for a second, I always think "Gareth Keenan Investigates!" when I see that Boston Rob show coming on Sci Fi.