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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sumi - Oct 20, 2006 6:07:10 pm PDT #2915 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think that she did.

Kathy, do you watch the previews?


Kathy A - Oct 20, 2006 6:10:22 pm PDT #2916 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I saw the preview for next week, and will watch the OnDemand excerpt once that's up and running this weekend.

Am definitely looking forward to seeing what happens to collaborators on BSG .


Kate P. - Oct 20, 2006 6:21:21 pm PDT #2917 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I could not believe that Tigh killed Ellen! I kept thinking, "I must be misunderstanding, he wouldn't actually do that!" -- and then he did it! It didn't occur to me at the time that she might know she was drinking poison, but I wouldn't be surprised.

I love all the dramatic hair-cutting/shaving moments on BSG. Not sorry to see the mustache go!

DW: I'm not quite getting the SHIPPER APOCALYPSE vibe from this ep; at least, not any more than I got it from last week's. It's not hard to see why Rennate (is that how it's spelled?) would fall for the Doctor, and I can see why he thought she was awesome and is sad that he didn't get to see her again before she died, but I don't think he's OMG IN LOVE with her. I think he felt/feels much more strongly about Sarah Jane Smith.

I will say, though, that seeing those two eps back to back makes me long for a good old-fashioned Doctor-Rose-centric episode. t waves shipper flag forlornly And Mickey needs to not stick around much longer; he's best in small doses.


WindSparrow - Oct 20, 2006 6:51:31 pm PDT #2918 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

DW: I'm not quite getting the SHIPPER APOCALYPSE vibe from this ep; at least, not any more than I got it from last week's.

Kate, I'm a big fan of the Doctor/Rose ship, but I didn't see this ep as a huge problem for my shippiness. Yeah, some people did, and I can see how - a completely human-centric view of relationships. By which I mean the expectation that the Doctor will feel, think, and behave in relationships just the same as a human - and not just any human, but specifically a human geared toward permanent pair-bonding. Over the years, there has been little overt shippiness displayed on screen, so an ep. like "The Doctor Dances" definitely opened the discussion - the message there is that, yes, the Doctor does have relationships. I see the message in "School Reunion" and "The Girl in the Fireplace" as the Doctor is capable of loving many people at once - holding them in his heart(s) in the now, and rarely thinking ahead about the future. As we know very little of the social fabric of his homeworld, I have thought it silly to box him in to human, specifically modern Western relationship standards.


sumi - Oct 20, 2006 6:55:08 pm PDT #2919 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Back to BSG: what about Jake!??!!


tiggy - Oct 20, 2006 7:24:16 pm PDT #2920 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I can definitely see why Tennant ended up dating the actress who played Rennate after they filmed this ep--wonderful chemistry between them.

i'm pretty sure they were dating before she guest starred, but yeah. the chemistry between them is awesome.

if i'm remembering correctly, very few people liked this episode when it aired in the UK. for me it was the realization that DT was my new favorite doctor. i believe my exact words were Christopher Eccleston who?


sumi - Oct 20, 2006 7:32:07 pm PDT #2921 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I thought it was a very touching episode.

What did people not like about it?


tiggy - Oct 20, 2006 7:35:39 pm PDT #2922 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

mostly the fact that the Doctor had left Rose and Mickey with no thought about how they were going to get home. i think they had issues with the fact that Eccleston's Doctor had promised to always protect her and DT's Doctor left her to her own devices when he jumped through that mirror to save Reinette.


Polter-Cow - Oct 20, 2006 8:00:15 pm PDT #2923 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

if i'm remembering correctly, very few people liked this episode when it aired in the UK.

Yeah, I was surprised to discover there was a huge wank about it because I loved it. Yes, it did bug me that the Doctor left the universe to its own devices, but...it was a sweet episode. Sweet as in cool.

BSG: Holy crap, BSG is good again!


WindSparrow - Oct 20, 2006 8:20:22 pm PDT #2924 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

mostly the fact that the Doctor had left Rose and Mickey with no thought about how they were going to get home.

Considering that I can think of three ways for the Doctor to rendezvous with Rose and the TARDIS off the top of my head, and I'm no super-genius, alien, Time Lord, why do people just assume that the Doctor was abandoning Rose and Mickey to their own devices? I assumed he pretty much trusted himself to be able to find a way back - yes it may well have involved a hideous amount of tedious travel along the "slow path", but why do so many viewers discount the possibility? The Doctor saw something that needed to be done, someone who needed to be saved, for which he must needs act quickly, and after which he could easily come up with a solution to incidental problems.

Bah.

RTD et al.do seem to like leaving a bit to the viewers' imagination.