I enjoyed the episode, and glad they went to a different AI for the killing of red-shirt pizza man. That's one thingy I'm always leary of with AI-gone-bad stories is that the characters always fix the computer and then seem to forget about the fact it went wonky and killed people.

Also, the entire ep, I was waiting for someone to comment on Carter's b.o.

Especially when Carter and Allison hug. I was expecting her to either scrunch her nose up, or else ask "Why do you smell like vanilla?"

Okay, I didn't get the Zuul reference when I read the ep. but loved that someone else got it. It made me very very happy to remember it.

Yeah, and beer and coco yums is gross. It makes you pretty distended feeling after a while.

Hammy music. Agree. As always.

it actually wasn't Fargo who came down the ladder at the end - it was just some guy - but Fargo would have been a much better idea.

And we loved the beer move when we came up with it on the day. (Moving the beer away from Carter when he starts to be an idiot) We tried to create a better out for the scene because there was no reason for me to be that obtuse, and then it came off laughing about maybe he was drunk. But we loved it.

And I'm praying that 1rst season syndrome clears up too. We hate the inconsistencies as well. We were SO hand to mouth on scripts that inconsistencies were the "little" battles. And I knew we'd never win a battle trying to slow the Ja-llison trash compactor, so it was just trying to take the sting off stuff.

We will try to fix. We will try. Loved the Stark Henry scene.

!!Vanilla line would have been great!!

I enjoy Eureka a lot, but I am getting really tired of all the character inconsistencies. Between seasons, could we get a chronology of what was originally supposed to have happened when?

Also, what is the producers' excuse for why the women seem to be taking off their shirts every episode or two, while the men don't? If we are going to objectify people on TV, let's have equal opportunity objectification! I'd love to see Colin in a Speedo!

I liked the episode, but I'm... bugged... by the indifference to the pizza guy death. Within the wonky attitude of Eureka, I can manage to handwave Jack and Zoe ignoring their personal neardeath experiences and staying in the house. Even though it's completely unrealistic (Jack's going to stay somewhere that nearly killed Zoe?) It's... external. It's weird, but the fact that someone ignores damage to *themselves* doesn't make them unlikeable.

But them ignoring the fact that the house actually ripped someone apart, that makes them look like assholes. They are ignoring damage to someone else.

Did people know about The Sarah Jane Adventures?

Woah... speedo patrol....CFerg frowns and furrows his brow....

We actually acted the moment that he was blown apart. It was quiet and serious but it didn't make the final cut. I don't know why. The visfx guy, Simon, showed us where the screen would be where we would see it, etc..

No idea why it didn't make it in because it was most definately scripted.

But all in all, frankly, it was a bottle episode and I'm always very glad to get out of a bottle episode at all. A bottle episode is an episode basically shot with little or no new cast, standing sets and minimal fx. It's done to save schedule and money. And they're always really hard to pull off with any sense of action. So I'm just glad it's done.

But the objectification bothers me because I just think it's a bit easy. It's fine if it's earned or hilariously gratuitous but trying to pretend like you're fooling someone is irritating for me. Same thing as any "love" plot. You just gotta earn stuff like that.

But my girlfriend got home and is watching it in the background and there are some good lines in there. And that makes me pretty happy. She posts under littlebug, FYI. Fingers crossed for numbers. I hope we come back up.

Speaking of Carter and Bev,

Oh lets, shall we?

Lots of fun, some good character stuff, a handful of allusions (Zuul, the Buffy ref) broadcast throughout. Very nice.

Also, what is the producers' excuse for why the women seem to be taking off their shirts every episode or two, while the men don't?

Hellooooo...Naked Taggart. Frewer is definitely a little more beefy than he looks clothed.

No idea why it didn't make it in because it was most definately scripted.

That actually makes me feel better.

but I am getting really tired of all the character inconsistencies.

Some of this can be explained by airing episodes in different order than they're shot. Other times, well, new series, yadda, yadda. If the other stuff's good enough (and it is for me in this case) I can handwave a lot of the inconsistencies away. At least for a while. With any luck, when a show like this gets established, those inconsistencies get fewer and farther between.

Did people know about The Sarah Jane Adventures?

Did not know. Thanks!

I've always assumed she drugged him. That's why I wasn't at all surprised when she poisoned Susan #2.

That was kinda the "nefarious" angle I was thinking of, but within the plot, why? Gotta go rewatch...

Every time I hear Carter say "oh crap" it reminds me of Darien Fawkes from "The Invisible Man."

Just got season 1!

speedo patrol

and a tube top?

*runs*

I'm so glad to hear that there was a reaction to Pizza Dude's death, gotta go box the ears of some editors now...

Poor Pizza Dude! But the job in Eureka probably comes with hazard pay.

I am with Cashmere on quite willing to accept a little inconsistency in return for an overall fun show.