Whatever happened to the still beating heart of a virgin? No one has any standards anymore.

Giles ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


WindSparrow - Sep 07, 2006 4:13:38 am PDT #1076 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

There was liquid in the cups. It's funny that they looked empty. We always use liquid because empty cups don't behave properly. That's funny.

I'll bet that whatever the liquid was, it wasn't 19.5 ounces in 20 oz. cups with dubious-quality lids of near-boiling liquid which will probably stain your clothes. That can get treated very differently than 15 oz of tepid water.

Well, Jo does get to actually put bullets in her gun. Still, she is pretty skinny, she could fill in for Barney in a pinch.

The mental image of Jack trying to stop Jo from having all the bullets she wants? Priceless. And not at all similar to the mental image of Andy explaining it to Barney. Also, it's a good thing for Colin's back that it's just a mental image.


§ ita § - Sep 07, 2006 4:23:42 am PDT #1077 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'll bet that whatever the liquid was, it wasn't 19.5 ounces in 20 oz. cups with dubious-quality lids of near-boiling liquid which will probably stain your clothes.

See, people are crazy. I get the cup one size up from the serving I'm buying. With room, as they say at the Bean. It does help that I'm not addicted or nothing. Not at all.


Deena - Sep 07, 2006 4:25:33 am PDT #1078 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

and we will do better... should we get to come back.

I'm crossing all my fingers and toes, which makes it hard to do anything else, but hey, anything for a good cause.

I've been thinking about the magnetic fence. If it were as strong as the magnet in an MRI, the whole thing works a little better.

The wireless transmitter became wonky because Stark replaced some chip or other before he sent Callister away, for a reason I need to rewatch to find out what it was.

Because things were going wonky before he left, as I recall.

And I think Callister was the virus, sort of. He was breaking down, dying like the others had; he just lasted longer.

empty things that should be heavier always niggles at my brain.

You know, I think I've seen too many empty cups on television. I noticed that, but it didn't actually ping me.

What was the last scene? SciFi lied and the ep was a few minutes off.

Zoe: Dad!
Jack: Zoe! You okay?
Zoe leading Stark and Jack around the busses to where Callister is sitting on the ground leaning back against a bus: I think he's sick.
Stark: Callister! Callister, hey.

Stark kneels beside Callister; Jack and Zoe stop a little way back

Jack: Hey, Nathan. Let's get him back to the car.
Callister gives a faint jerk of his head that could be taken as a no. Stark freezes.

Stark: Give us a second will you?

Jack and Zoe step away and look at one another

Jack: You didn't leave.
Zoe: I knew he needed help.
Jack: Where were you going?
Zoe: pained look, slight shake of the head Anywhere but here.
Jack: Nods. Pauses. You were right. Before. If you'd called and asked to come to Eureka, I would have said no.

Zoe, looking resigned, nods

Jack: And I would have regretted it for the Rest. Of my. Life.
Zoe: You said you were done with me.
Jack: Zoe. You're my daughter and I will Never. Ever. be done with you.

camera switches back to Callister

Callister: I messed everything up again didn't I?
Stark: No. It's my fault. I should have never sent you away in the first place.
Callister: I'm scared. I'm not ready.
Stark: I know.
Callister: What's going to happen to me?
Stark: Remember what Alan Turing said?
Callister: He figured God could give a computer a soul, if he wanted to.
Stark nods
Callister: Do you think that's true?
Stark teary: I know it is.

Callister's eyes flip front with a little whirring sound, and they go black. Stark bends over the body, Zoe grabs Jack and cries.

Next scene, street of Eureka outside the police station, then inside. Zoe enters with two cups of coffee

Jack looks up: Hey.
Zoe: Hey.
Jack: What're you doin' here?
Zoe putting cup of coffee down in front of Jack: I was just on my way to school. She smiles at him, more her usual self, and he is bribed, taking the cup of coffee. Jack speaking slowly: So. I spoke with the credit card company. And pulled some strings with my old boss. pauseYou know you're going to have to pay back every penny, right?
Zoe: I know. I will.
Jack: Okay.
Zoe: Okay.

Long pause. Zoe looks sad. She gets up and turns to go. The camera stays on her

Jack: Zoe. Jack gets up and walks around his desk. Then we see him
Jack: Um. Uh. I was wrong.
Zoe: quizzical look
Jack: About your hair. I like it.
Zoe: Really? Because I think I'm going back to blonde! Zoe grins, leaves.
Jack: After the door shuts Oh! Thank God. Makes a whooo-whew sort of sound.


Laura - Sep 07, 2006 4:28:30 am PDT #1079 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Maybe in sorting out the scene we got too familiar with the props. I'll re-watch it.

Since it was on this computer I watched the end again quickly. I hadn't noticed the cups the first time I watched the episode. That isn't the kind of thing that I notice anyway. I think Windy is right about the hot liquid thing. You do hold a cup of water differently than a cup of hot coffee. It is the casual handling of the cups.

Then again, I got to rewatch the Jack/Zoe interaction at the end. Which I enjoyed as a parent of a teen.


WindSparrow - Sep 07, 2006 4:39:34 am PDT #1080 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Zoe: Really? Because I think I'm going back to blonde! Zoe grins, leaves.
Jack: After the door shuts Oh! Thank God. Makes a whooo-whew sort of sound.

Maybe this isn't so much Jack the not-quite-in-character parent saying this, maybe it is the Jack the audience proxy saying it. Because every time Zoe was on screen with the RED! hair, the rest of her looked so washed out as to remind me of Chiana. G'head. Ask Daniel how many times I said that while the show was on. Even the cat was telling me to shut up.


Jars - Sep 07, 2006 4:48:04 am PDT #1081 of 10001

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I can't stop thinkng she looks like this actress form Coronation Street. Not that I watch Coronation Street.


sumi - Sep 07, 2006 4:48:17 am PDT #1082 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Who Two DVD news.


Laura - Sep 07, 2006 4:50:04 am PDT #1083 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

The schools here don't let the kids have great insane hair colors, but other than that Zoe looks like teens I see regularly. Since I was 16 in 1970 my crowd didn't do crazy hair, or makeup, or bras for that matter. I enjoy watching the neighborhood girls experiment with their looks. The boys do the same, but not as dramatically for the most part.


Laura - Sep 07, 2006 4:55:22 am PDT #1084 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

From sumi's link:

The set, released on 20 November 2006, comes in lenticular packaging that features a special moving image on both front and back.

Guesses on what the special moving image might be? Galek? TARDIS?

Also, Woo! I don't believe I have seen the word lenticular before. Excellent shiny new word.


DXMachina - Sep 07, 2006 4:59:14 am PDT #1085 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I've been thinking about the magnetic fence. If it were as strong as the magnet in an MRI, the whole thing works a little better.

I have, too. Actually, I've been thinking way too much about it. Anyway, my new question is, of what use is a magnetic fence in the first place, especially in the context of a dairy farm? The dairy farms I used to live next door to had an electric fence, which I'm sure had a teensy magnetic field, but the electric shock potential was the key to keeping the cows in.