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deborah grabien - Mar 07, 2003 5:52:17 pm PST #753 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Amending: I've read a few of her essays (New Yorker? One of those, anyway). It's possible her sensibilities are, er, too East Coast to make me squeal.

I don't play well with with Erica Jong, either. Me and the new York thang, as is al ready known to some, we do not cohere.


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 07, 2003 5:56:39 pm PST #754 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Her novels are so just... filled with things. And her command of narration, and irony, make me go all gushy.

She's said she still thinks of herself as primarily a novelist.


deborah grabien - Mar 07, 2003 6:00:07 pm PST #755 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I think it's the irony thing; I lost my taste for it an awfully long time ago, after I discovered that for me (real-world me), it was a killer and something to be avoided.

So I stopped liking reading it, and I started mistrusting people who were essentially purely ironic. That's just me. It's not a mask that I want to peer behind, mostly.


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 07, 2003 6:07:42 pm PST #756 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Oh, no, they're not nearly purely ironic.

I just saw slight metatextual jokes here and there. But I see those everywhere. Actually, I think my definition of irony is not everyone's definition of irony.


DavidS - Mar 07, 2003 6:11:43 pm PST #757 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I love her novels.

I guess you haven't seen Bull Durham yet, huh?


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 07, 2003 6:14:39 pm PST #758 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

... no.

OK I love the two of her novels that I've read. This is Susan Sontag. That's a lot!


DavidS - Mar 07, 2003 6:16:47 pm PST #759 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

OK I love the two of her novels that I've read. This is Susan Sontag. That's a lot!

Are they early ones from the sixties? Or the Volcano lover one which is less experimental?

I'm a big fan of her essays. "Notes on Camp" and "Illness as Metaphor" are major works.


Steph L. - Mar 07, 2003 6:17:42 pm PST #760 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

She spoke at Miami when I was there, about "On Illness as Metaphor."


DavidS - Mar 07, 2003 6:21:04 pm PST #761 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oh! This reminds me that I was just gossiping with Teppy about this. Susan Sontag and Annie Leibovitz just broke up. I didn't even know they were lovers! Reported in the local paper.


deborah grabien - Mar 07, 2003 6:29:27 pm PST #762 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

OK, that doesn't surprise me - not the breakup part, which would suck because I am a huge sentimental sappy romantic and like couples (especially where at least one of the partners is a strong woman) to stay together, but the lovers part. I can see them together.

I love Bull Durham; brilliant flick. But I don't think Sontag's novels are crap, because how could I, whenI haven't read them? Talking to her while young killed the early desire to read her stuff; she was very flip and New York and that's very tooth-grindy. Should I try her now, after a passage of years? Opinions?