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The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Aug 12, 2004 3:07:25 pm PDT #6008 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Lessons Learned from the Score Sheets of Susan's First-Ever RWA Contest Entry

1. No Book Will Please Everyone. For this contest (the Published Authors Special Interest Chapter Book of Your Heart), each entry was judged by three booksellers (unlike most, which are judged by writers). The scoresheet had five agree or disagree statements judged on a 1 to 7 scale where 7 was a perfect score.

One judge, whose scoresheet happened to be on top, gave me straight 7's and wrote just one thing in the comment section--"Wonderful." I felt like Michelle Kwan in the kiss-and-cry getting her presentation scores at Nationals, but I also knew the others couldn't be like this or I would've, like, made the finals.

The next judge gave me straight 3's and said I had too much detail, she wasn't sure what kind of story to expect or who the hero was, and said she found it tedious and skipped paragraphs. However, she did allow that my writing and sentence construction were strong. (Nothing like damnation with faint praise!)

The final judge gave me a seven, two sixes, and two fours. On the negative side, she expressed doubt about the marketability of a first-person historical, and said there wasn't enough storyline in the first chapter to enable her to make a honest evaluation of the book. On the positive side, she said she would've loved to have read more because it seemed very promising, and she wished me all the best.

2. Choose Contests More Strategically in the Future. This contest, like the vast majority of RWA chapter contests, allows you to enter just your first chapter. In Lucy, the hero and heroine don't meet until the beginning of chapter two. I think I begin in the right place for the story I'm trying to tell, but a good book and a good one-chapter contest entry aren't always the same thing. I've been picking contests based on which editors are judging the final round for my category. In the future, I'll go by that AND ones that allow me to enter enough pages to introduce the hero--like the three with October deadlines that allow 30 or 35 pages.

And I don't know what I'll do assuming I'm still an uncontracted writer working the contest circuit when I finish Anna. Anna and Jack do manage to meet in Chapter One, but her husband doesn't die until Chapter Three. Though I think I can pull it back a good bit on rewrite--I did a major backstory dump that I know will have to be shortened and/or split up, just to establish for myself where everyone stood and what I needed to tell.

3. You're NOT Too Arrogant After All. It occurred to me after the fact that perhaps it was overly ballsy of me to compete in a contest open to published as well as unpublished writers the very first time out of the gate. But, you know, two of the three judges gave me very good scores, and even the one who marked me down dinged me on a combination of marketability issues and (IMO) her personal taste. If my basic skill level wasn't on par with published authors, I wouldn't have gotten the scores I did.


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2004 4:51:18 pm PDT #6009 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You remember what it was like before him. And it was good. You remember what it was like meeting him - awful. You remember the perfection, and then when it became real, where it was good again, different from before, and you'd not undo any of it.

You remember your last dance, and if you'd known it would be the last last dance, you'd have picked something less...ironic.

You remember dithering over a sweater this morning. But picking the pretty bra and panties.

You don't remember ever having been this cold. And you can't remember the last time you breathed in.


sumi - Aug 12, 2004 6:58:03 pm PDT #6010 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I would totally agree that it sounds as though your work just wasn't to the taste of the second judge.


Susan W. - Aug 12, 2004 7:24:23 pm PDT #6011 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I would totally agree that it sounds as though your work just wasn't to the taste of the second judge.

Yup. It wouldn't surprise me if the judge who gave me perfect sevens has reading tastes that almost directly overlap mine, at least when it comes to romance, while the judge with the threes probably loves the books that make me scratch my head in puzzlement that they're published. Luck of the draw. And while I'd rather have lucked into three judges who all loved me, because then my chapter would be sitting on an editor's desk for the final round, it's instructive to get a broad cross-section of opinion, too.


Astarte - Aug 12, 2004 9:01:35 pm PDT #6012 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

I'd say that sounds like a good result, if not the one you were ultimately hoping for when you entered, Susan.

Go, you!!


deborah grabien - Aug 12, 2004 9:23:40 pm PDT #6013 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

jeepers, ita.

Susan, yup on the contest - personal taste issues on the part of the judges, both yea and nay.


Susan W. - Aug 12, 2004 9:53:32 pm PDT #6014 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Just in case it wasn't clear, I really am feeling good about this. To have three complete strangers who don't know or care anything about me read my work and get positive reactions from two out of three is validating.


deborah grabien - Aug 13, 2004 7:29:28 am PDT #6015 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Heh. Susan, you were totally clear, and I'm with you, you should feel validated. Plus, all feedback is useful.

Speaking of which, two big errands to run today plus cleaning the house, but also I need to be writing and editing today, so please do kick me out if I'm in here for more than a few minutes (I do check between bits).


Deena - Aug 13, 2004 7:43:48 am PDT #6016 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I finally got a thought.

Ten times

During open heart surgery, three times. Waking from each death cursing the doctor who brought him back.

A stroke, twice. “I want to go home,” he said.

Congestive heart failure, 4 times. “Is this your fault? Did you pray to bring me back?”

In a fetal position, curled over his favorite La-Z-Boy, once. Alone. Finally free to go.

I dream of the funeral, over and over. In my dream, he sits up from the casket and laughs his caustic Muttley snicker. “Suckers,” he crows, and points at us, the body of us. We should not be sad he is gone.


Susan W. - Aug 13, 2004 7:48:48 am PDT #6017 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Oooh, nice.